Jiggapin0
May 13 2004, 02:20 PM
Where should we draw the line?
What I'm really trying to ask is why do other countries get to watch porn on cable more freely than we do. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Haha.
But seriously....it's in our television, our music, textbooks and many forms of media. Is censorship hiding our true feelings and most of all the truth? Is it limiting us?
Show me whatcha got.
juliar
May 13 2004, 02:24 PM
I think they have something like you only get to hear the part of the news that the government wants us to hear.
IF THIS IS TRUE::
Home of the Free my arse.
AmesBond
May 13 2004, 02:49 PM
When I listen to music on the radio, I expect to hear every last cuss word. I don't want to listen to something that's bleeped out every other word. Profanity isn't even that much of a problem.
Jiggapin0
May 13 2004, 02:54 PM
Yeah, I know. I listen to rap music and it pisses me off when you can't even enjoy the song cuz there's blanks where the cussing would be. I bought an edited cd on accident one time and it pissed me the hell off. I couldn't return it cuz I had already opened the case which blew so much donkey balls.
Kathleen
May 13 2004, 02:58 PM
I just think that it's too late to do anything about it now. It shouldn't be like this. Julia - about the government...sometimes it's good to be ignorant; therefore, you wouldn't be able to interfere with anything. Although, it is nice to know everything. Sometimes it's best not to. Think about it as parents and a small child. We'd be the small children, our parents taking care of us, and being able to since we don't question their authority. Besides, I thought you were liberal - wouldn't you be in support of the government doing more?
melface
May 13 2004, 03:01 PM
I'm not really sure where I stand on this topic....
I just want to be able to turn to the Disney Channel and see some boobs... or some kid's first discovery of masturbation... those guys are hot.
just kidding, just kidding. or am I?
Spirited Away
May 13 2004, 03:29 PM
I think censorship is just fine the way it is... there's not too much, or too little.
As for rap songs that has curse words in them, I for once, am glad that they are censored. Imagine a school bus of kindergardeners hearing that kind of language on the radio. I wouldn't be surprised if they come home and tell their mothers "fcuk that crap, I don't like to clean my room, why don't you go shake some bottay". Okay, that was way off... but my little 5 year old cousin called her Dad bastard because that's something she heard on a TV show. I know not all kids will copy profanities, but kids don't know the meaning of what they say a lot of times..
Not to say that I don't like rap... I like listening to eminem by myself in the car............................... off topic.. sorry.
tkproduce
May 13 2004, 03:33 PM
Does censoring swear words actually help? I mean if I write the word "f***" here, with all but the first letter censored, people would still know what the whole word is
WhiteChocolate
May 13 2004, 03:36 PM
QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 13 2004, 3:33 PM)
Does censoring swear words actually help? I mean if I write the word "f***" here, with all but the first letter censored, people would still know what the whole word is
You know I've thought the exact same thing so many times!!!! I could sit here and put just one letter from a cussword and then a bunch of asterisks after it and you could tell me what every word I put was. Just like you did...
b****
s***
a**
see?
melface
May 13 2004, 03:40 PM
People are not stupid... instead of hearing sh*t on the radio.. we hear ... 'shhh--'.... People know how to fill in the blanks... So what's the point..? next thing we know they're going to censor out 65% of the song.. and all we will be hearing is 'bust a .... in yo .... ..... ur girlfriend in the .... ' -.-' it's just lame
Spirited Away
May 13 2004, 03:45 PM
QUOTE(omg_melface @ May 13 2004, 3:40 PM)
People are not stupid... instead of hearing sh*t on the radio.. we hear ... 'shhh--'.... People know how to fill in the blanks... So what's the point..? next thing we know they're going to censor out 65% of the song.. and all we will be hearing is 'bust a .... in yo .... ..... ur girlfriend in the .... ' -.-' it's just lame
well, some people, like me, prefer not to hear a song with 65% of curse words.
It's lame, I agree, but I wouldn't want my [imaginary] kids comming home to me with that kind of language.
melface
May 13 2004, 03:47 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 13 2004, 2:45 PM)
well, some people, like me, prefer not to hear a song with 65% of curse words.
It's lame, I agree, but I wouldn't want my [imaginary] kids comming home to me with that kind of language.
that kind of language is everywhere... You could be shopping at Wal-mart and your child could pick up that kind of language... and if that's big of an issue.. then just don't let your child listen to the radio.. Resort to sing-along cds...
I'm actually okay with how censoring is currently, though.
Spirited Away
May 13 2004, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(omg_melface @ May 13 2004, 3:47 PM)
that kind of language is everywhere... You could be shopping at Wal-mart and your child could pick up that kind of language... and if that's big of an issue.. then just don't let your child listen to the radio.. Resort to sing-along cds...
I'm actually okay with how censoring is currently, though.
Aha, I think my cousin would beat me into a pulb if I make her listen to sing-alongs... she's too cool for that.
That language is everywhere, but why is it everywhere? Because people think that it's okay to use them. Why do they think so? Because it's on the Radio, it's on TV, it's on the internet... so it must be perfectly fine.
I hear stuff walking into a decent restaurant too... so I know what you're talking about...
Yea, censorship is okay right now. Too much would be annoying, but too little could make everyone worse off.
instantmusic
May 13 2004, 05:15 PM
because we are sick and in love with the perversions of porn, and even the simple perversions we see on tv, like beyonce doing her thing and internationally known hiphop groups getting down with their girls... we have to resort what we shouldve never resorted to: censorship.
remember back in the 50s, the 30's, 20's... girls had to wear long skirts, couldnt show their shoulders, legs, whatnot. as time progresses, we get so use to it, and then we move on by showing more skin... cuz the world is just perverted.
initial-seven
May 13 2004, 05:20 PM
I HATE censorship.....I saw a music video on MTV, 50cent - PIMP, and most of the song has f*** . When they sensored it, they cut the sound so all I heard was a part of the song and then a blank and then a part of a song and then a blank...ITZ SOOO ANNOYING......It screws up the whole song
Many people say it should be sensored because of little kids......Just because of those little kids the FCC (or w/e ppl who decide wut is allowed on tv) block all the good stuff from us good people.
CJ1
May 13 2004, 05:45 PM
I think censorship is good, unless it goes too far. Swears are okay to censor, but sometimes they censor too much.
example:
Excerpt from My Band by D-12
All the chicks start yellin', all the hot babes
Throw their bras and their shirts and their panties on stage
They would censor bras and panties. I think that's when it gets too far.
WildGriffin
May 13 2004, 05:48 PM
if the majority of people that speak up about cenorship in governement ask for it, they'll get what they want.
to me, censorship is just fine were its at...except for the whole "violence is better then nudity".
Nudity first.
Violance later.
Spirited Away
May 13 2004, 06:01 PM
QUOTE
Many people say it should be sensored because of little kids......Just because of those little kids the FCC (or w/e ppl who decide wut is allowed on tv) block all the good stuff from us good people.
Uh, that's the thing, you considered yourself 'good' because you already know the difference between right and wrong.
Many children have yet to know what is right and wrong, and they are the ones who can be swayed by TV/music idols.
You can listen to curse words and know not to use them inappropriately, but these kids, they won't know what to say or what not to say. That's why it's so important to keep these censors, in my opinion.
strice
May 13 2004, 06:07 PM
Censorship outside in public makes sense, but its really not necessary. any TV station with half a brain knows that having disagreeable content will deter a certain target audience and avoid it. i do, however, condemn censorship of private intellectual property, such as one of michael moore's videos.
kryogenix
May 13 2004, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(AmesBond @ May 13 2004, 2:49 PM)
When I listen to music on the radio, I expect to hear every last cuss word. I don't want to listen to something that's bleeped out every other word. Profanity isn't even that much of a problem.
but is it the censor's fault or the artist's fault? should the artist be cursing?
QUOTE
People are not stupid... instead of hearing sh*t on the radio.. we hear ... 'shhh--'.... People know how to fill in the blanks... So what's the point..? next thing we know they're going to censor out 65% of the song.. and all we will be hearing is 'bust a .... in yo .... ..... ur girlfriend in the .... ' -.-' it's just lame
yes but kids who haven't been exposed to the word wouldn't know how to fill in the blank.
QUOTE
I HATE censorship.....I saw a music video on MTV, 50cent - PIMP, and most of the song has f*** . When they sensored it, they cut the sound so all I heard was a part of the song and then a blank and then a part of a song and then a blank...ITZ SOOO ANNOYING......It screws up the whole song
Many people say it should be sensored because of little kids......Just because of those little kids the FCC (or w/e ppl who decide wut is allowed on tv) block all the good stuff from us good people.
they're trying to shield the kids from bad words so that they grow up to be good people.
stryker76
May 14 2004, 05:48 AM
Censorship is Obsene.......It sucks....in global you learn that censorship is on of the characteristics of a communist country....and our country is like up tight about everything....i mean i cant even buy an uncensored cd ne more at my local walmart....i have to go all the way to the city and pay more for the same thing just uncensored...and no people say that tv is gettin worse and more dramatic...who cares america is too up tight....look at europe and other counrties...they are fine and not so up tight on everything...y r we so different
WildGriffin
May 14 2004, 05:54 AM
QUOTE
Censorship is Obsene.......It sucks....in global you learn that censorship is on of the characteristics of a communist country....and our country is like up tight about everything....i mean i cant even buy an uncensored cd ne more at my local walmart....i have to go all the way to the city and pay more for the same thing just uncensored...and no people say that tv is gettin worse and more dramatic...who cares america is too up tight....look at europe and other counrties...they are fine and not so up tight on everything...y r we so different
The government doesn't force walmart to not carry stickered CDs, that's walmart's choice. As for the rest....too many catholics in high positions?
jewishbabeygirl87
May 14 2004, 06:04 AM
yup it is. freedom of speech and press is being impressed upon. dam why do we live in such a frigged up world??!!
Winter
May 14 2004, 06:12 AM
Censorship has gone way overboard here in Asia.
In China, a gangster movie, Jiang Hu, was banned because it was a gangster movie and in the end, there were no police to take down the bad guys.
In China, Faye Wong's album was banned because one of her song lyrics contained the word 'cocaine'. She was singing about how love was addicted like cocaine in one song and the entire album gets banned.
In Malaysia, all major movies relating to Christianity/Jesus were banned. The Passion Of Christ, that Moses movie, every one of them. Simply because Malaysia's main race are Malays, who are Muslims and they fear that those movies might effect the Muslims.
I think it's stupid. These censorship boards are censoring things that don't really harm, but they allow worst things to pass through the censorship board.
In Asia, the censorship boards definitely need to 'chill'.
tkproduce
May 14 2004, 06:34 AM
Japan doesn't have much censorship (except in porn movies). The only movie that had bits cut out was Pearl Harbor and I guess that's fair enough. I've heard people say "f*ck" in daytime Japanese TV - well it's probably because no one would understand anyway. They're becoming a bit stricter on film ratings - I used to be able to walk into any movie regardless of whether it was Rated-R in the States or not, but I think they've started to have restrictions now.
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 10:01 AM
Like someone has mentioned before, if you think that censorship 'sucks' then speak out to the government, make protests... etc... to have it changed...
But then again, people like me, who wants it to stay the same, will speak out as well.
pandatotherescue
May 14 2004, 11:11 AM
i think the government wantsto hide alittle to much, i mean were eventualy going to get exposed to nudity, fowl language, violence, gore and such. of course there should be a limit, i mean alot of the youngerin age kids are very imature because they havnt been exposed to any of that kind of stuff so when they are they have to make a big deal out of it, the more things shown the more mature people will get because they are used to it.
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(pandatotherescue @ May 14 2004, 11:11 AM)
i think the government wantsto hide alittle to much, i mean were eventualy going to get exposed to nudity, fowl language, violence, gore and such. of course there should be a limit, i mean alot of the youngerin age kids are very imature because they havnt been exposed to any of that kind of stuff so when they are they have to make a big deal out of it, the more things shown the more mature people will get because they are used to it.
I don't want innocent children to mature too quickly now.
Then again, watching nudity, vulgarity doesn't make a child mature, it makes him/her curious enough to try these things out sometimes.
jewishbabeygirl87
May 15 2004, 05:59 AM
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 14 2004, 6:54 AM)
The government doesn't force walmart to not carry stickered CDs, that's walmart's choice. As for the rest....too many catholics in high positions?
i think so. i think that athiest should have those positions because then they arent biased. [like bush and all those others.]
Spirited Away
May 15 2004, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(jewishbabeygirl87 @ May 15 2004, 5:59 AM)
i think so. i think that athiest should have those positions because then they arent biased. [like bush and all those others.]
Who says athiests aren't biased? They could be biased against those who do have a religion.
EmeraldKnight
May 22 2004, 06:41 PM
I dont know about this topic.. I mean.. yes, some things deserve to be hidden.. but censorship can easily become abused... i mean, consider Nazi Germany, the majority of the ppl knew nothing of Hitler's political actions, nor the Holocaust until Allied media made them aware, but then censorship of say violence or nudity for little kids, that wouldnt be so bad
So I guess my argument is that censorship's alright if we dont have an overly strict hold on it
tmauze
Apr 10 2005, 01:59 PM
I don't feel all too strongly on the topic of censorship because some things on tv shouldn't be seen. I have to look at it from a parent's prospective: if I was a mother or father, would I want my 4 year old kid to see and hear these things?
gOODpIRATE
Apr 13 2005, 10:45 PM
of couse some things should be blocked, expecially from immature children that would more likely than not take what they learned from the television and do somthing incredibly idiotic.
i dont think censorship is not that horrible now-a-days because once your able to see south park, crank yankers, etc... on television, i think that we are doing good. becides, they only show the some what bad stuff on t.v. late at night, so i think we are going okay so far.
loljuliana
Apr 15 2005, 07:20 PM
I think that censorship on TV is good enough. But censorship in songs. .it kills the song. Curses shouldnt really be bleeped out because it's a normal thing in our society nowadays.
simx
Apr 24 2005, 09:05 PM
The government can only limit our free speech if it presents a "clear and present" danger to society...
kryzcoak47luv666
Apr 25 2005, 04:28 AM
QUOTE(juliar @ May 13 2004, 2:24 PM)
I think they have something like you only get to hear the part of the news that the government wants us to hear.
IF THIS IS TRUE::
Home of the Free my arse.
I so agree
I think that when it comes to games/cd's/dvd's they should be allowed to make it as explicit as they want, its up to the consumer if they want it or not, and now a days kids are exposed to so much sex and violence that nothing is truly censored, as for songs it kills the song, as for games, some games suck without violence, gta was a hit! I think America needs to be a little more open with games and music, besides that we are fine....
jue
Apr 29 2005, 06:42 PM
curses are just words. i dont get why some get offended.
and same thing with showing nudes; there just someones body.
i mean everyone has teh same features so why go against it.
iNyCxShoRT
Apr 29 2005, 06:47 PM
I hate it when they censor things in a song. I mean literally all you can hear is: Life is full of *beep* and it gets me so *beep* *beep* and the whole song i ruined just cause of that. Maybe they should put a warning before they play the sdng "this song may not be suitable for children under 13."
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