NatiMarie
May 12 2004, 11:14 PM
Euthanasia is known as painless killing and is sometimes placed on patients that suffer, but want to have their life taken away by an injection or something of the kind.
Should this type of assisted suicide be allowed, or should it be banned?
What do you think?
Spirited Away
May 12 2004, 11:21 PM
I think it should be used but available only as a last resort... but then again, what if you kill yourself, and then a cure if found on the next day?
WhiteChocolate
May 12 2004, 11:33 PM
no no no no no no...terrible! I disagree with it totally.
AngelicEyz00
May 12 2004, 11:57 PM
Aww man, I was gonna make this topic

he, oh wells... my english class had a discussion on this... I think it depends on certain things though
NatiMarie
May 13 2004, 12:23 AM
Sorry, Elba

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Yeah, I was just thinking about this because we read something about Euthanasia being placed on elderly people (well in a fictionous book) and then it made me think about it a little.
jewishbabeygirl87
May 13 2004, 05:46 AM
availabel, but not known to the public.
casssy
May 13 2004, 07:50 AM
i think it should be a choice.. but not for stupid reasons..
dasturbd
May 13 2004, 08:18 AM
This is a toughy. First of all i believe that if a person is requesting to be euthanised, it should be made sure that they are of sound mind and body and not just basing it off of a bad day. I can see where some would just really want to stop their pain and end it though. I watched my BIL die slowly from cancer...it's probably the hardest thing I have ever had the misfortune to see in my lifetime. Many times he prayed for it all to just end. He wanted to die so badly near the end because he just couldn't take what it was doing to him anymore.
I guess I'm kind of neutral on this one
Winter
May 13 2004, 08:23 AM
I think it should be allowed in certain cases. Like if a person is really suffering too much and can't stand it anymore, or perhaps if that person is a vegetable or is dependant on a machine to keep him alive, then it should be allowed.
tkproduce
May 13 2004, 12:13 PM
If the suffering person is not physically capable to decide whether to die or not, who should be given the right to decide?
WildGriffin
May 13 2004, 12:23 PM
hey, if a person wants to die they want to die. You should probably try to help them with there problems first, but if all else fails it's their choice and they might as well do it in a controlled enviroment. The only thing that scares me is a person wanting to back out of it at the last second but the doctor still continues.
xquizit
May 13 2004, 12:43 PM
Nope. Playing God once again. Besides, how do you know what might have happenned to that person if you gave him/her more time? Like uninspiredfae said, what if there was a cure the next day? Or what if something miraculous happens (which in some cases it does) where they're healed?
WhiteChocolate
May 13 2004, 03:07 PM
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 13 2004, 12:23 PM)
hey, if a person wants to die they want to die. You should probably try to help them with there problems first, but if all else fails it's their choice and they might as well do it in a controlled enviroment. The only thing that scares me is a person wanting to back out of it at the last second but the doctor still continues.
This sounds soo much like assisted suicide.
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Dr. Kevorkian...?
Kathleen
May 13 2004, 04:40 PM
Okay, I'm kind of neutral on this as well, simply because it's up to the person's own decision, but if they can't say anything, and they're practically a vegetable (as someone said before), then why let them go through that pain? Let them be at peace and move on. No one should have to suffer like that.
On the other hand, yes, as uninspiredfae said, there could be a cure found, or a miracle, as someone (I think Roxanne) said previously.
I've heard about contracts people sign nowadays, where they can sign it to get euthanasia if something were to happen to them. I just say give it some time. If they obviously don't sign it, why take away their choice because they can't speak for themselves?
Edit: This is my 3,400th post!

Oh yeah!
instantmusic
May 13 2004, 05:37 PM
well... man. why am i hardcore truth? ok i'd say, no its wrong. ah! cuz blah its still killing.
man if that was me, i'd be begging for death. i know i would. but its still wrong. dont do it. put me to sleep or something. nicatene right? that drug that makes you feel.. eeeeeeh.. hehehe...
CJ1
May 13 2004, 05:39 PM
It shouldn't be banned because it takes the pain away. What's the point of staying alive if you're going to suffer or a vegetable? However, it should be the patient's decision.
Kathleen
May 13 2004, 05:45 PM
Exactly, CJ...it should be the patient's decision. Now, when it comes to the fact that it's completely unpredictable, and they are a vegetable, I think it should be allowed. It's quite hard to see someone you love sit there, as if they weren't even alive. I know I had a hard time seeing it with my grandmother, so you can't honestly say you don't want it unless you've witnessed a "vegetable" for yourself.
kryogenix
May 13 2004, 06:13 PM
no, euthanasia is terrible. it is murder, plain and simple.
Kathleen
May 13 2004, 08:39 PM
QUOTE
no, euthanasia is terrible. it is murder, plain and simple.
Have you ever seen a "vegetable"? They sit there in pain for how long before they actually die? It's pretty terrible to leave them there for days and days on end. Furthermore, what if the person signs the contract, saying they want to die if they're like that? Are you going to go against their wishes and not kill them?
AngelicEyz00
May 13 2004, 09:24 PM
err... i really don't like the word vegetable...
Kathleen
May 13 2004, 09:33 PM
I know, but I can't think of anything else to call it, Elba.
stryker76
May 13 2004, 09:37 PM
Yes i totally think it should a be a last resort thing....i mean y make people suffer it is inhuman....i mean if you have a dog that has rabies or is severly injuried what do you do to it...ya take it out back and shot him or have it put down....and give them a nice barial....no body wants to grow old and suffer there golden years away....would you
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 04:28 PM
QUOTE
Yes i totally think it should a be a last resort thing....i mean y make people suffer it is inhuman....i mean if you have a dog that has rabies or is severly injuried what do you do to it...ya take it out back and shot him or have it put down....and give them a nice barial....no body wants to grow old and suffer there golden years away....would you
Yes, but I think people are still going to argue, "But these are humans we're talking about!" Still, a lot of people love their dogs as much as their loved ones.
kryogenix
May 14 2004, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 13 2004, 8:39 PM)
Have you ever seen a "vegetable"? They sit there in pain for how long before they actually die? It's pretty terrible to leave them there for days and days on end. Furthermore, what if the person signs the contract, saying they want to die if they're like that? Are you going to go against their wishes and not kill them?
morally speaking, the person should be kept alive. what if a person wants a hitman to kill him? is it moral for the hit man to kill the guy?
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 05:09 PM
Well...he did say so, did he not? By morality, he has the choice to make his own decision. Besides, the guy isn't in pain when he asks the hitman to shoot him. He's not barely hanging onto dear life, lasting painfully through each day.
onenonly101
May 14 2004, 05:10 PM
That is a hard question. I hate suicide because it is sucha selfish thing and really hurts the ones who loved the one who took their life. I don't know what i'd want done to me in that situation, but if the person did not request it it shouldn't be done. Like in the case here in gA the mother killed her two sons who were dying from Hodgkins disease(it might have been another disease i'm not sure i'll research it)
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 05:15 PM
Also, is it not painful for the loved ones around you to see you go through that pain for that long, knowing you're going to die?
Mireh
May 14 2004, 06:04 PM
It totally depends on the person. If he/she is in so much pain that they can not bear it, and they agree, THEN they can take it. But if they still have the willpower to live, absolutly not.
initial-seven
May 14 2004, 07:56 PM
OF COURSE it should be allowed, itz a persons own choice to kill himself or get killed. Why should the government have control over this.
[2]Nekked
Jun 2 2004, 03:44 PM
i think it should be available and if they choose to take that road, then it should be discreet and confidential if yknow what i mean.
angel-roh
Jun 3 2004, 07:36 AM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 12 2004, 9:21 PM)
I think it should be used but available only as a last resort... but then again, what if you kill yourself, and then a cure if found on the next day?
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darkcoldplace
Jun 3 2004, 07:39 AM
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 14 2004, 5:15 PM)
Also, is it not painful for the loved ones around you to see you go through that pain for that long, knowing you're going to die?
thats true right there, there gonna care, i don know why people do it anyway...
ryfitaDF
Jun 5 2004, 12:21 AM
suicide is stupid, but i don't see why it's illegal. who's gunna press charges if you kill yourself? you sure can't, and your loved ones can't sue a dead person.
kryogenix
Jun 5 2004, 08:27 AM
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 5 2004, 12:21 AM)
suicide is stupid, but i don't see why it's illegal. who's gunna press charges if you kill yourself? you sure can't, and your loved ones can't sue a dead person.
the law against suicide is there to deter people from commiting suicide. if they are caught and are stopped before they kill themselves, they get in trouble but if they die, what can you do, they're dead.
m@dcow
Jun 5 2004, 09:04 AM
definitally allowed... u want a slow painfull death or a quick painless one?
HiddenSmile
Sep 18 2005, 05:19 PM
but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now.
Mulder
Sep 18 2005, 08:20 PM
i support assisted killing, but only for the terminally ill. and they would have to sign a consent form. if they can choose to not be resuscitated (sp?) then why cant they die peacefully? makes sense to me.
mipadi
Sep 19 2005, 02:01 AM
QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 6:19 PM)
but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now.
What makes it your responsibility to set such an example to other people?
Spirited Away
Sep 19 2005, 09:28 AM
QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 5:19 PM)
but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now.
... what can vegetables do exactly that's 'so much' in your point of view?
again, you seem to think everyone is strong. indeed, each of us has the capabilities to be strong, but the source our strengths may differs as night and day. have you ever seen someone you love in so much pain that she wishes she'd die and you want the same because it grieves you to see her in unbearable pain? my aunt had cervical cancer that spread throughout her body and those sentiments i mentioned were felt by all who loved her. she wanted to live for those who will survive her, but the cancer set physical limitations. no, she didn't use euthanasia because she was Catholic and the decision was made
before she realize she'd be in that much pain. guess what? the pain was so intolerable and she could not eat, drink, nor spoke. we watched as she died in hunger and pain.
you have to understand, some people DO HAVE IT BAD and need the last resort.
Blow_Don't_SUCK
Jan 21 2006, 08:13 PM
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 14 2004, 6:10 PM)
That is a hard question. I hate suicide because it is sucha selfish thing and really hurts the ones who loved the one who took their life.
selfish? But ethunasia are for people who suffer incurable diseases that cause them daily pain. The relatives don't know what kind of pain the patient suffers. They don't know what hardships they live through. if the patient wants the lethal injection, let them have it. I think it should be allowed.
but there are some cases in which a psycho quak would go in a hospital and inject every patient living with incurable diseases with euthanasia without asking or legally getting permission. In those cases, I'd say no euthanasia.
Basically if euthanaisa becomes legal, I want professional doctors to have only access to that and whenever Euthanasia is performed, the lawyer of the patient or relative of the patient should be there to witness it.
Gerifan04
Jan 25 2006, 04:52 AM
This is a really difficult subject. The people who vote on and create these laws often don't have these problems. I do not suffer from a terminal disease. So I can't possibly know what goes on in the mind of these poor people. But as we all know, everyone can very well assume what might they might do. I assume that after living with a debilitating(sp) diease for a while, I'd probably want to die. I understand why someone who is suffering daily and has been for a great while would want to kill themselves. I mean, if a cure isn't found in time, they're most likely going to die anyway.
It's just so hard on their families though. We all want our loved ones to live as long as possible. But we must ask ourselves. Are these people really living? What kind of life do they have? To me its just one filled with sadness and sorrow. All they(and their families) seem to want is a cure, a relief. Which sadly, many don't get that cure and only death brings their relief. The lucky get that relief swiftly. But many aren't given that gift. So I say we should let people die if they want to. I think the only requirement should be that they are of sound mind. But that in itself is a big question. How can someone suffering like that be of a sound mind? I don't know. But perhaps in situations like this, we could get them some sort of mental evaluation? I'm not sure. But if we can't find the cures, I just hope we can find some credible way to give these people relief.
misoshiru
Jan 25 2006, 06:03 AM
i don't think that it should be banned. instead, it should be the patient's choice.
AnnahhbeL
Jan 27 2006, 06:36 PM
its scary you kno..its like injecting yourself with poison and killing yourself. =(
Spirited Away
Jan 27 2006, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(annabel_x @ Jan 27 2006, 6:36 PM)
its scary you kno..its like injecting yourself with poison and killing yourself. =(
Are you looking at the big picture or following the debate? A person resorting to euthanasia isn't "killing" him/herself for no reason.
CrackedRearView
Jan 27 2006, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 3:19 PM)
but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now.
This is kind of off-topic, but your signature...wow. You're pretty passionate.
You might need to find yourself a hobby.
Blow_Don't_SUCK
Feb 1 2006, 12:41 AM
QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 6:19 PM)
but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now.
I know I'm late, but BLEH let me state my opinion.
Euthanasia is (usually) recommended to people who are in much more serious cases such as cancer, paralysis, vegetated state, or any other diseases that cause intolerable pain. Doctors only refer to it when they lose hope on the patient. (May I add that the example you gave is vague). Euthanasia isn't made for people with depression. Besides, I don't see how someone who is in too much pain to move can do much.
Frostedflakes616
Jun 22 2006, 09:00 PM
All I know so far is that more than 85 percent of the U.S states do not allow assisted suicide.
And for those who don't know what it is...
it is when you basically kill yourself, with the help of a medical worker.
I don't remember what state does, but somewhere in West US
they say if a person wants to die and live no longer, then we should help them get what they want.
What do you guys think about it?
ECD & C0
Jun 26 2006, 09:44 AM
i think thats stupid 85% of people want to live after an attempt in suicide so the best way to "help" some one would be to advise them to or take them to a doctor.
Tyweezy
Jun 26 2006, 09:46 AM
QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Jun 26 2006, 10:44 AM)

i think thats stupid 85% of people want to live after an attempt in suicide so the best way to "help" some one would be to advise them to or take them to a doctor.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
kewl loser kid
Jun 26 2006, 09:49 AM
QUOTE
i think thats stupid 85% of people want to live after an attempt in suicide so the best way to "help" some one would be to advise them to or take them to a doctor.
agreed
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