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WildGriffin
I'm stealing this from someone. I'm not too sure, you can't really tell these things till after a term. But so far, he's on the road to suckage.

He sucked before he was prez., didnt he have a couple DWI's or DUI's or whatever the fark they're called? He also ditched his duties as a national guardsmen or whatever. And...he was a coke head.

So says my political bible written by a democratic satirist, "lies and the lying liars who tell them."
juliar
Well, I blame him for the war and that leading to the budget deficit. I mean, if he didn't have this war and use so much money on it, I think that many more people would support him. We are selfish, money people. Can't change that.
WhiteChocolate
Um, no. rolleyes.gif

You haven't said ANYTHING about what he's done as president to put forth any merit into your argument. Dredging up someone's past doesn't convince me that they suck.

Kerry has a bunch of medals that he didn't earn. Yeah, we all have skeletons in our closet.
Kathleen
People make mistakes, you know...they change...besides...there are so many idiots out there that do that anyways - are you going to yell at them when they become head of a company someday?
whomps
Dean is serene.

Yes, I think Bush sucks. But that's just me.
WildGriffin
People don't change when they hit 50. I'm just saying Bush has always been an idiot and how he got into the presidency is beyond me (maybe it was his name.....nahhhhhh). Lol, didn't kerry get one of his purple hearts by falling off a bike? Hey, an injury is an injury, at least Kerry actually fought for our country while bush was busy drinking and waiting for his spot in the political world provided by daddy.

Oh, and don't compare the presidency to a CEO of some company. Companies don't represent out country...well not as much as Bush does. Companies don't decide if we go to war. So if there were two idiots appointed to the presidency and a company, i'd go argue the presidency first.
WhiteChocolate
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 12 2004, 9:33 PM)
People don't change when they hit 50. I'm just saying Bush has always been an idiot and how he got into the presidency is beyond me (maybe it was his name.....nahhhhhh). Lol, didn't kerry get one of his purple hearts by falling off a bike? Hey, an injury is an injury, at least Kerry actually fought for our country while bush was busy drinking and waiting for his spot in the political world provided by daddy.

You still haven't showed me any reason as to why he's a bad president. Good lord, this isn't a debate, this is a pointless "BUSH SUCKS...HAHAHAHA...HE ISNT THE REAL PRESIDENT ANYWYAZ!! HAHA...BECUZ GORE REALLY WON...HAHA!"

rolleyes.gif

I would have LOVED to have seen what Gore would've done abou 9/11...loved to see the fear in his eyes. No, Bush is my president.
Spirited Away
I don't understand how people continually blames Bush for this deficit thing. It's redundantly incorrect.

The war is costly, but that's only a part of it...

No one can control the economy really, we can only model it and then try to predict the outcomes of certain changes.

Please rule out "Bush sucks because he killed our economy" or "He caused this whole deficit thing".
CEP
He's slow, but he doesn't suck.
Let's see you handle something as big as 9/11 and pass with flying colors.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
strice
Dubya is a sack of shizit. the list of things he's done wrong is far too long to list. Even that bloody patriot act is worth impeachment, considering all of the encroachments it has on the bill of rights, such as jail without trial, restriction of freedom of speech, among others. All in the name of HOMELAND SECURITY. bullsh*t! thats how hitler came to power. the reichstag was set on fire, which may have been intentionally done by hitler's followers, and he then declared a state of emergency and took power. does anyone else see that? I can't trust a religious zealot who acts like an ape. anyone is better than bush.

was that too long?

VISIT moveon.org to take our country back.
WildGriffin
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You still haven't showed me any reason as to why he's a bad president. Good lord, this isn't a debate, this is a pointless "BUSH SUCKS...HAHAHAHA...HE ISNT THE REAL PRESIDENT ANYWYAZ!! HAHA...BECUZ GORE REALLY WON...HAHA!"


Nobody said anything about him not being the rightful president, but it's nice to see that you can bash your own arguments.

Alright, here's his track record:
*Lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction then pinned it on smaller guys
*Ignored several warnings of sept. 11, warnings for which he was bombarded with (yes,bombarded, they're are several warnings that bush and company ignored; all occuring one month before sept.11)
*Took resources away from finding Osama to fight in Iraq, gaining public support by lieing about WMDs
*Spent $6.5 billion on nuclear arms research instead of properly armoring our troops in Iraq
Um, and a quick google search turned up this wonderful site. I dunno, is 100 mistakes good enuff for you? 100 Bush Suckage Points



He also doubles as a chimp.
HaNeul-ye
hey, what has he done for the poor people?
CEP
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 12 2004, 8:02 PM)
Nobody said anything about him not being the rightful president, but it's nice to see that you can bash your own arguments.

Alright, here's his track record:
*Lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction then pinned it on smaller guys
*Ignored several warnings of sept. 11, warnings for which he was bombarded with (yes,bombarded, they're are several warnings that bush and company ignored; all occuring one month before sept.11)
*Took resources away from finding Osama to fight in Iraq, gaining public support by lieing about WMDs
*Spent $6.5 billion on nuclear arms research instead of properly armoring our troops in Iraq
Um, and a quick google search turned up this wonderful site. I dunno, is 100 mistakes good enuff for you? 100 Bush Suckage Points



He also doubles as a chimp.

Okay, fine. I'll just stop talking.
*plays with the monkies*
happy.gif

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
whomps
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 12 2004, 8:02 PM)
Nobody said anything about him not being the rightful president, but it's nice to see that you can bash your own arguments.

Alright, here's his track record:
*Lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction then pinned it on smaller guys
*Ignored several warnings of sept. 11, warnings for which he was bombarded with (yes,bombarded, they're are several warnings that bush and company ignored; all occuring one month before sept.11)
*Took resources away from finding Osama to fight in Iraq, gaining public support by lieing about WMDs
*Spent $6.5 billion on nuclear arms research instead of properly armoring our troops in Iraq
Um, and a quick google search turned up this wonderful site. I dunno, is 100 mistakes good enuff for you? 100 Bush Suckage Points



He also doubles as a chimp.


Dude, you're awesome.

Here's another.
Everyone go to google.com and look up "failure".
WildGriffin
The monkies are fairly high in their awesomeness levels.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(strice @ May 12 2004, 9:55 PM)
Dubya is a sack of shizit. the list of things he's done wrong is far too long to list. Even that bloody patriot act is worth impeachment, considering all of the encroachments it has on the bill of rights, such as jail without trial, restriction of freedom of speech, among others. All in the name of HOMELAND SECURITY. bullsh*t! thats how hitler came to power. the reichstag was set on fire, which may have been intentionally done by hitler's followers, and he then declared a state of emergency and took power. does anyone else see that? I can't trust a religious zealot who acts like an ape. anyone is better than bush.

was that too long?

VISIT moveon.org to take our country back.

I don't think you can compare Bush to Hitler and get away with it.

First of all, we live in a free country, and we have the right to believe what we want. If Bush sucks for you because you just simply feel that way, that's fine and dandy. But saying that Bush sucks because of Home Land Security is kind of silly.

After 9/11, I felt so insecure, and questioned how could those killers get through our defenses. Well, the answer was simple: our defenses wasn't that hard to crack through. I for once, feel safer with HomeLand Security.

And like Jose said, I don't think anyone could've done better than Bush when 9/11 occured.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him much, but I can't find any of these Bush-bashing justifiable.
WhiteChocolate
everybody go to google.com and look up "Losers who have no life that live to bash the best president we've had in perhaps a century."

You do realize that Bush is beating Kerry in the polls...? So despite the fact that all you democrats might have a louder voice....the republicans are amassing....dun dun DUN!

And I have no idea how I was "Bashing my own arguments" rolleyes.gif
whomps
QUOTE(WhiteChocolate @ May 12 2004, 8:08 PM)
everybody go to google.com and look up "Losers who have no life that live to bash the best president we've had in perhaps a century."

You do realize that Bush is beating Kerry in the polls...? So despite the fact that all you democrats might have a louder voice....the republicans are amassing....dun dun DUN!

And I have no idea how I was "Bashing my own arguments" rolleyes.gif

stubborn.gif
I'm not sure I even like Kerry.

I'm pretty damn sure I don't like Bush.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(jUsT eRiCa @ May 12 2004, 10:02 PM)
hey, what has he done for the poor people?

Dude, what do you want to be done for the poor people?

Give them more funds for welfare and let them sit on their arses?

I'm not saying that all are like that, but I find that a lot of "low income" families are actually more well off than I am.

This huge deficit we have is also partly from increase in medicare and welfare program fundings.
WildGriffin
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everybody go to google.com and look up "Losers who have no life that live to bash the best president we've had in perhaps a century." You do realize that Bush is beating Kerry in the polls...? So despite the fact that all you democrats might have a louder voice....the republicans are amassing....dun dun DUN! And I have no idea how I was "Bashing my own arguments"


waiiiiittt...did you just call ME a loser and BUSH the best president in a century?

You got some explaining to do. What makes Bush the best president, huh?

And what makes you think calling me a loser pushes your weak ass argument?

And bringing up the fact that Bush didnt rightfully win the presidency when nobody even mentioned it when you're trying to defend Bush doesn't help your "pro bush" argument.

Way to fizzle out.
strice
best?! are you kidding me? please, do outline the merits of emperor bush.
WildGriffin
white's only argument is that Bush handled 9/11...any president coulda handled it...and probably would've done a better job.
strice
my ass could have done a better job.
WildGriffin
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Dubya is a sack of shizit. the list of things he's done wrong is far too long to list. Even that bloody patriot act is worth impeachment, considering all of the encroachments it has on the bill of rights, such as jail without trial, restriction of freedom of speech, among others. All in the name of HOMELAND SECURITY. bullsh*t! thats how hitler came to power. the reichstag was set on fire, which may have been intentionally done by hitler's followers, and he then declared a state of emergency and took power. does anyone else see that? I can't trust a religious zealot who acts like an ape. anyone is better than bush.


I liked the Reichstag comparison. Terrorism, even though it was faked made Hitler the man he was. Bush wasn't such hot sh!t before 9/11.
strice
where did the conservatives go
Spirited Away
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 12 2004, 10:20 PM)
Bush wasn't such hot sh!t before 9/11.

Right, but I still sort of respected him for it.

Being President isn't such an easy job. A lot of them age so quickly while in office. Give them some credit.
WildGriffin
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where did the conservatives go


Man, none of the heavy weight arguers turned out. All we got was chump change. Or maybe they're thinking up a rebuttal to type tomorrow....or they're typing as we speak ohmy.gif oror,they went to sleep. there's a good side to everything, i'm sure somebody will whoop my anti-Bush ass tomorrow in an argument.
casssy
QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ May 12 2004, 8:53 PM)
He's slow, but he doesn't suck.
Let's see you handle something as big as 9/11 and pass with flying colors.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

I agree with you JOse shifty.gif
triipinfserious
okay think about this ... if you ask 100 people "who was a better president bush or clinton" i think 75% would say clinton [if you polled nuetral sides ... not demacrates or republicans] ... i believe they would say that because CLINTON DIDN`T HAVE TO DEAL WITH JACK! `dn it olny looks like bush sucks `cause he has WAY TO MUCH TO DEAL WITH ! haha so yueah i`m with bush (=
Kathleen
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 12 2004, 11:24 PM)
Man, none of the heavy weight arguers turned out. All we got was chump change. Or maybe they're thinking up a rebuttal to type tomorrow....or they're typing as we speak ohmy.gif oror,they went to sleep. there's a good side to everything, i'm sure somebody will whoop my anti-Bush ass tomorrow in an argument.

Hey now, don't start this...it seems like you're about to bash people. sad.gif Sometimes people don't have time, you know?

Also, I have seen nothing to argue as of yet. I don't agree that Bush has been the best president in the past century, but he is doing good. At least he doesn't blantanly contradict himself or throws another man's medals. Come on. stubborn.gif Furthermore, Kerry doesn't have a definite plan of doing things. Why not just let Bush finish what he started? He's the only one out of the two of them that actually know what's going on. Are you going to sit there and tell me that Al Gore would've handled 9/11 and Iraq better than Bush? He probably would've ran to a corner and hugged a tree or something.
WildGriffin
I think Gore would've handled 9/11 better..probably better chances of catching Osama. Cause, ya know, he wouldn't have diverted resources away from Afgahnistan to fight a war in Iraq under false pretenses. Iraq wouldn't even be an issue. And the army that Bush is doing so lovely with is the one Clinton spent time building.

Furthermore, Bush's policies are just pushing us further down as everyone's enemy. Clinton actually was a good president, and (me thinks) lieing about sex is the lesser of two evils when Bush decided to lie about WMDs.

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okay think about this ... if you ask 100 people "who was a better president bush or clinton" i think 75% would say clinton [if you polled nuetral sides ... not demacrates or republicans] ... i believe they would say that because CLINTON DIDN`T HAVE TO DEAL WITH JACK! `dn it olny looks like bush sucks `cause he has WAY TO MUCH TO DEAL WITH ! haha so yueah i`m with bush (=


Yeah, that's right. Hey choose to deal with Iraq. Afgahnistan wasn't such a big deal, so you can't really attribute Bush's hardships to terrorism. Bush is chooseing to send our country into debt. He also should've persuaded some allies to help instead of making the US the main force in Iraq. But see...most people knew it was a bad idea. But hey, when a country falsely elects a former drunk/duty ditcher/crappy student, what can you expect?

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He's slow, but he doesn't suck.
Let's see you handle something as big as 9/11 and pass with flying colors.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi


The problem is he coulda passed with flying colors...but he moved on to Iraq for God knows what reason (fighting daddies lost war?). Man, if we used the amount of resources he uses in Iraq to fight terrorism...well...there'd be a little less terrorism.

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Man, none of the heavy weight arguers turned out. All we got was chump change. Or maybe they're thinking up a rebuttal to type tomorrow....or they're typing as we speak  oror,they went to sleep. there's a good side to everything, i'm sure somebody will whoop my anti-Bush ass tomorrow in an argument.


This kid is a stupid head. Who's he callin chump change? He should prolly apologize. Sorry.
F_L_I_P
Hmmmm...i sont know he did lead us to war just to get revenge for his father...i heared _dry.gif
dani41790
QUOTE(juliar @ May 12 2004, 4:28 PM)
Well, I blame him for the war and that leading to the budget deficit. I mean, if he didn't have this war and use so much money on it, I think that many more people would support him.

yep thats pretty much wat i waz gna sae
Jiggapin0
Bush does not suck especially well-trimmed bush. I love bush.....oh wait a second....haha....you're talkin' about PRESIDENT Bush. Yeah, Bush is the easiest President to make fun of. He makes me wish Will Ferrell was still on SNL to impersonate his ass.
Mireh
BUSH SO DOES NOT SUCK!!!

omfg! I'm so tired of all these Bush Bashers! mad.gif

Just because he has a bad rep, does NOT mean that he sucks! Seriously.

I don't blame him for starting the war either, if we had antother president, he would have done the same as bush did, -send troops out.

By the way, lets see you guys try to take over as president. It isn't as easy as you think.
Spirited Away
I disagree with you. Name a few LOGICAL ways Gore could've handled things better with 9/11. And if Osama is in hiding, how on earth do you supposed Bush and Gore find him? Fly over there and do the search themselves? It's the FBI and troops who are trying there darnest to find that coward. I don't think either one of them could change what happened or handled it a better way. If you list that Bush should not have gone to war and called a better solution, I wouldn't even count it.

As for Clinton, OF COURSE people liked him. The economy was soaring while he was in office, and it only luck, as no one can control the economy. I happen to be a ardent Clinton fan myself, but I didn't like the way he dealt with Korea's threat.


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This kid is a stupid head. Who's he callin chump change? He should prolly apologize. Sorry.


I sort of agree there... who's he to be calling names.
Fe_LL
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Hey choose to deal with Iraq. Afgahnistan wasn't such a big deal, so you can't really attribute Bush's hardships to terrorism.


Its Afghanistan not Afgahnistan.

Why would someone choose to deal with Iraq? We were attacked. We attack back. Right? I also remember learning that Clinton had also heard what the Iraqi’s or Osama was planning on terrorism and didn't do anything about it.

Why exactly do you dislike the president so much? He's our president. He's taking care of the America almost by himself. I don't see how he can suck. Someone who became president and has so many supporters that Bush is beating Kerry in the poles can not suck.

Question, where do you get your information? The newspapers? The radio?
instantmusic
im not at liberty to say. he's my boss now. biggrin.gif . yay bush. go bush.. yeah.. um.. yeah wink.gif whistling.gif . shifty.gif
WildGriffin
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Question, where do you get your information? The newspapers? The radio?

Alright, I hope you arn't trying to push this in a "well your sources are wrong" cause it's not like you have inside information on anything. Rather pointless question actually, where else would one get there information?

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Its Afghanistan not Afgahnistan.

It doesn't matter, you knew what I meant and pointing it out just made you look like a pious arse.

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Why would someone choose to deal with Iraq? We were attacked. We attack back. Right?

We were never attacked by Iraq. Bush lied about WMDs that never existed.

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Name a few LOGICAL ways Gore could've handled things better with 9/11.

Gore could have not diverted forces away from Afghanistan to pursue Saddam under false pretenses. Logical enough?

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Just because he has a bad rep, does NOT mean that he sucks! Seriously.

Having a good rep would make someone NOT suck, so yeah. Having a bad rep does make him suck.

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By the way, lets see you guys try to take over as president. It isn't as easy as you think.

We arn't president material and we know it. Bush is an idiot for not realising what we've come to realise, that if you don't have the brains for the job you probably shouldn't run.

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Someone who became president and has so many supporters that Bush is beating Kerry in the poles can not suck.

Yeah, republicans kinda have to support him..or else they wouldn't be republicans.

The real problem is that too many people are confusing Afghanistan and Iraq as one war, cause its all in the middle east. We had a legit reason for Afghanistan, we were lied to in order to support Iraq.
CJ1
He does suck, but give him a break! He has to balance controling the country, Iraq (sorta), his family, and lots of other things. It puts a lot of stress. Sure, he might've made a few mistakes, but who hasn't?
WildGriffin
I'm just pissed off that he made the presidency. He's so not qualified for any leadership position, sheesh. He sucked at school, he was a drunk, and ditched his responsibilities. He handled being Governer as Texas alright i suppose, but he shouldn't be president now or ever again. He just isnt president material.
kryogenix
no, the president is a great president and he will win the upcoming re election. you ignore all of the great things he has done because people like you guys enjoy making fun of people who can't answer back.

strice, i'm here _smile.gif
strice
hey wild, i'm back.

I doubt that any other president without oil powered agendas would have touched iraq. We had no solid evidence to go an invade iraq, and thats why the whole damn world hates us even MORE.

Bush's mistakes are not the, "ooh come on everybody makes mistakes" sort of mistakes. They are more along the lines of "WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU THINKING?!" anyone who follows world events could see where everythign was going and it would go down in flames.
WildGriffin
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no, the president is a great president and he will win the upcoming re election. you ignore all of the great things he has done


what great things has he done?
WildGriffin
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I doubt that any other president without oil powered agendas would have touched iraq. We had no solid evidence to go an invade iraq, and thats why the whole damn world hates us even MORE.

Bush's mistakes are not the, "ooh come on everybody makes mistakes" sort of mistakes. They are more along the lines of "WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU THINKING?!" anyone who follows world events could see where everythign was going and it would go down in flames.


True That.
Kathleen
Okay, with the weapons of mass destruction, what would you rather us do? Sit there, twiddling our thumbs, hoping they don't have them? If he didn't have them, why was he being so incooperative?

Also, people change...you say that Clinton shouldn't be hated because he did something bad...I agree...it was in his past...same thing with Bush...it's in his past...how are you going to stick up for that fact with being biased like that?
strice
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 13 2004, 6:18 PM)
Okay, with the weapons of mass destruction, what would you rather us do? Sit there, twiddling our thumbs, hoping they don't have them? If he didn't have them, why was he being so incooperative?

Also, people change...you say that Clinton shouldn't be hated because he did something bad...I agree...it was in his past...same thing with Bush...it's in his past...how are you going to stick up for that fact with being biased like that?

yes, people seem to say that to me. but did anyone else notice that iraq really had no way out? we said, "if you have WMDs, we'll invade you". so they didn't find any, so they say, " hey! bring out the wmds or we'll invade you! " obviously, there was no real solution for iraq. they dont' have them, they get invaded. they have them, they get invaded.
WildGriffin
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Okay, with the weapons of mass destruction, what would you rather us do? Sit there, twiddling our thumbs, hoping they don't have them? If he didn't have them, why was he being so incooperative?

Also, people change...you say that Clinton shouldn't be hated because he did something bad...I agree...it was in his past...same thing with Bush...it's in his past...how are you going to stick up for that fact with being biased like that?


Yeah, WMDs are scary things. But he didnt say "hey, we're gonna invade cause they might have em, is that cool?". he said "they have em, we have proof, we're goin in". Saddam was allowing UN troops to search where ever the hell they wanted. That lasted for a couple months, the UN concluded he didn't have WMDs, Bush went against it. Saddam was very cooperative, the only uncooperative thing he did was not turn himself over to Bush.

I think Bush's multiple counts of drunk driving = Clintons affair. They'd be even in my eyes...if Bush didnt further lie about WMDs and start a faux war.
strice
well, i'd sooner trust a pervert than an alcoholic.
Spirited Away
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they dont' have them, they get invaded. they have them, they get invaded.


Saddam was the one who boasted that he has WMD. _dry.gif
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