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AngelicEyz00
What do you think about same sex marriages? Are you for, or against them?

Me, I'm for them
waccoon
why not?
dukesoccer07
Totally against it....
Spirited Away
I'm against gay marriages, but I'm not against gay people as they do not have a choice in their sexuality...

I can't really defend this because it's just how I feel.
AngelicEyz00
Well, for those of you who are against it, could you provide some reasoning for it?
Kathleen
Yes, I would like to know why. My simple theory is: If they're happy that way, let them be. America is about pursuing happiness, and that's what should matter. It shouldn't matter if your religion thinks it's wrong. It shouldn't matter if you think it's disgusting - I'm sure you've done other things once or you will that seem horrid to others. It shouldn't matter that two people in love should be denied marriage because they're different. Yeah...that's my thought on this. happy.gif
Mireh
I feel that even though it's not the norm, I totaly accept it.

People have a choice to THEIR sexuality, and the right to choose whomever they love. We should not be the ones to tell them who to love, and who not to, - they should be the only ones to.

Also, if we prohibit it, we are, in a way, holding people against their will. Is that infringing on the US's theory of "life, liberty, and FREEDOM" ?
AngelicEyz00
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 12 2004, 3:26 PM)
Yes, I would like to know why. My simple theory is: If they're happy that way, let them be. America is about pursuing happiness, and that's what should matter. It shouldn't matter if your religion thinks it's wrong. It shouldn't matter if you think it's disgusting - I'm sure you've done other things once or you will that seem horrid to others. It shouldn't matter that two people in love should be denied marriage because they're different. Yeah...that's my thought on this. happy.gif

Thank you Kathleen, I completely agree...

And for those of you who are against it, you know you're being discriminant, right?
AmesBond
Gay people are people too. And like heterosexuals, they should be allowed to marry, if they feel strongly of their partners.
LiNHy POO
im for it... ill give a relgious anwser... it doesnt say it in the bible that same sex marriages are wrong...

everyone is different... they should do wut feels right for them... not wut society says...
NatoBoy
same sex marriage? mmm...im for it, im not gay tho haha...its just that gays have their rights to...and uhh they should all be happy becuz they're humans like us and they have to go thru some stuff that we go thru
Spirited Away
Like I've said, I can't really defend it, because it's just how I feel. But I will try:

Gay marriages will involve adoptive children. These children WILL NOT have a choice in whether or not they will be raised by gay couples. As there are still many people who are against gay marriages, these children must face this society of people who looks at them strange, or deal with their class mates taunts.

I guess, then my main concern isn't the marriage itself, but rather, the results of these marriages.
xtremeliquid
There is absolutely nothing wrong with gay people. They are just normal people like us and they have all the rights in the world to do as they wish.
Kathleen
Not all gays adopt, though. Futhermore, those children will eventually leave their parents...they'll move on in life...it's sort of like with cloning...how will they feel. I know what you mean, though.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 12 2004, 5:51 PM)
Not all gays adopt, though. Futhermore, those children will eventually leave their parents...they'll move on in life...it's sort of like with cloning...how will they feel. I know what you mean, though.

Well, looking back at my post... I realized something... I would be one of those people who'll 'look strangely' at these kids who have no choice... I don't think I have a right to do that to them because that choice was robbed from them (as with most adoptive infants).

I guess then, I'm sort of neither against nor for it. Let things work themselves out.
Kathleen
Yeah, and also, no matter what, I don't think these couples would go out of their way to mistreat this child, you know? Granted, the kid himself might not like the fact that he has two fathers or two mothers, but at least he's alive and has a home. ermm.gif
Spirited Away
Well, if or when the law accepts gay marriages, I promise not to treat these children differently, because I know that they'll have a heck of a time dealing with other people already. But to me, it's still strange to acknowledge man and man/woman and woman, as husbands and wives. We'd need to change those definations.
Kathleen
Yes - actually, I can't recall what dictionary it was, but they changed the definition of marriage.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 12 2004, 6:21 PM)
Yes - actually, I can't recall what dictionary it was, but they changed the definition of marriage.

You mean something like this?:

QUOTE
A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage

That's one of the definitions for marriage I found on dictionary.com
I guess it's just a hard concept to accept right now... but like someone've said, all this will be like the norm in about 50 years.
jooleeah
i think same sex marriage is fine. i mean, it's really their own business. i don't think the goverment or whatever should be involved in it. let them be happy. i mean, gay people are just the same as people who aren't gay. just let them do whatever they want.
Spirited Away
One question though, there was one person (I've forgotten his xanga), who argued quite articulately that if gay marriage is allowed then marriage btw immediate relatives should be allowed, too, as in incest.

Not the exactly same thing, I know, but if certain rights are given to one group then shouldn't it be given to others as well?
kirbymuixo
like it is with abortion, many people believe that American citizens should be given rights to make their own decisions since America is all for the rights of the people...but it really depends on your own point of view to determine whether same sex marriages should be legal or not. On the religious point of view, people believe that marriage is reserved only for a male and a female, as it is said so biblically, but if you were to take into account human rights for all people and the freedom of choice, Americans should be able to decide for themselves what they want to do...
kantoaznboi
i cant believe that this topic is even being discussed. i mean its wrong 2 discriminate someone just because of somethin someone is. i mean not letting ppl marry just because of the definition of the daym word?! man, ppl stop being so narrow minded and just let then marry. they have every rite as other ppl 2 marry.
if ur so stuck up about not letting them marry cause a marriage is between a man and an women, then change it. change the definition 2 a union between two people. god......................

it just pisses me off that gays are being discriminated because of theier sexuality. i mean they're just like anybody else.
jewishbabeygirl87
for. i mean if everyone has equal rights and gays are people too then either let them marrey or let no one marrey.
WhiteChocolate
QUOTE(LiNHy POO @ May 12 2004, 5:39 PM)
im for it... ill give a relgious anwser... it doesnt say it in the bible that same sex marriages are wrong...

Oh, no, God only DESTROYED sodom and gommorah for their horrendous sexual acts of homosexuality and the like. [sarcasm]But, nope, nothing against it![/sarcasm]


It may be a matter of mostly a person's religion or whatever, but I feel that homosexuality is a sin. I won't condone a sin by saying that gay marriage is ok.

No. Absolutely not.
WildGriffin
As long as there's enough people populating our earth (which we seem to have an abundence of), i could care less about gays. So long as they dont give me any looks....cause that's totally gay.
strice
being a californian, i dont' care about same sex marriages. damn conservatives ought to be more openminded.
CEP
People should be able to marry/do whoever they chose.
Isn't that what freedom is about?
So what if the bible says that it's wrong?
The bible also tells you not to eat meat on fridays. Don't you eat meat on fridays?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
immersion31
i dont like it cuz god made us to create life, how can we do that wen its 2 guys/girls? however, on the other hand, black n wite marriges were wrong less than 50 years ago. and now, look how many interacial marriges there are. things will eventually change
WhiteChocolate
QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ May 12 2004, 10:00 PM)
People should be able to marry/do whoever they chose.
Isn't that what freedom is about?
So what if the bible says that it's wrong?
The bible also tells you not to eat meat on fridays. Don't you eat meat on fridays?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Tell me where it says in the bible not to eat meat on fridays? Im guessing this is just exaggeration. (Dang I think I spelled that wrong)

The bible does have things in it such as no eating hooved animals and stuff like that...many extravagant laws. This was before Jesus sacrificed his life for our sins. Also, Paul had a dream with a lot of animals in a net where God told him that it was ok to eat the animals.

Anyway. _unsure.gif
strice
well, i have no evidence but i do believe that the bible forbids wacking it, and i don't doubt you go right ahead with it.
WhiteChocolate
QUOTE(strice @ May 12 2004, 10:14 PM)
well, i have no evidence but i do believe that the bible forbids wacking it, and i don't doubt you go right ahead with it.

Yep actually the bible doesn't say anything specifically about masturbation. It's one of those gray areas that have some religious scholars divided. Don't ask me. Nice try though...hehe the bible never says anything like that though.

"Thou shalt not gratify thyself by touching thine genitalia"


heh....
immersion31
QUOTE
"Thou shalt not gratify thyself by touching thine genitalia"
lol;
AngelicEyz00
QUOTE(WhiteChocolate @ May 12 2004, 8:27 PM)
Yep actually the bible doesn't say anything specifically about masturbation. It's one of those gray areas that have some religious scholars divided. Don't ask me. Nice try though...hehe the bible never says anything like that though.

"Thou shalt not gratify thyself by touching thine genitalia"


heh....

lmao laugh.gif
krnxswat
Well, being a Christian and all, I don't really like the idea of it. But who cares? As long as they're satisfied and doesn't bother me, I'm fine with it.
whomps
I don't think there's anything wrong with same sex marriages..
sweetlyz
i don`t see what`s wrong with it .. so i`m for it. why DO people find that its wrong? if they`re in love then that should be it. let them get married.
NatiMarie
There's nothing wrong with it, it doesn't affect me so I don't mind as much. =). Everybody has the right to marry who they want (i.e.: 13 yr old with that 40-year old woman).
casssy
im for it.. i think they should have the right to marry eachother and be happy... just like men and woman.. whats the difference.. were all people.. we should marry who we want to..
triipinfserious
i personally don`t like it; but it`s their life...not mine...so they can spread their love to whoever they want
tkproduce
I think the actual question we should be asking ourselves is "SHOULD GAY COUPLES BE ALLOWED TO ADOPT AND RAISE CHILDREN?"
WildGriffin
QUOTE
I think the actual question we should be asking ourselves is "SHOULD GAY COUPLES BE ALLOWED TO ADOPT AND RAISE CHILDREN?"


Yeah,sure. Why not?
dani41790
well im more on tha against side cuz den i kinda dont like it but then again tha constitution says that every1 has tha rite to da pursuit of happiness so yea...
Mireh
QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 13 2004, 9:58 AM)
I think the actual question we should be asking ourselves is "SHOULD GAY COUPLES BE ALLOWED TO ADOPT AND RAISE CHILDREN?"

I would rather have 2 dads, than no family.
Jiggapin0
Government wants to get more tax money outta the gays. Two single gays would pay more taxes than a male-female married couple.
initial-seven
I dont really see wutz wrong with gay marriages........Dere would be less babies.....
instantmusic
this nation was founded on a christian foundation, am i wrong? i read it in a text book somewhere. and as christian laws, going back to the bible, doesnt it say that marriges are between a Man and a Woman? I leave you with that question.

also, if they were to adopt kids, in a gay marrige a man cant simulate for a mother, and a woman cant simulate for a father. every child needs a MOM and a DAD.

check this, this is cool. I have nothing against gay people. I just disagree with their lifestyle.

but why is it that the gay people are awlays funnier - quote: darnell, my gay friend. he's cute wink.gif .
kryogenix
closing the topic, there's another one already.
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