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IIO__oII
yea.. u guys.. we're just DEBATING.. this is just a debate.. just talking about ure beliefs.. just showin em sum proof to support ure side of the debate... wink.gif lets give peace a chance, shall we? biggrin.gif


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but its important to share ure beliefs with everyone... _smile.gif good job u guys cool.gif
princess2113
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:18 PM)
took the words right out of my mouth

no tension i just want to understand what he is saying and make some sort of sense out of it

ok yeah having sex after ur married isnt wrong....God wants u to reproduce.....
machinoman
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 7:03 PM)
yupyup.....but i dunt think being gay is nemore of a sin then lieing or cheating..ect...

saying being gay is not only bashing, but completely inappropriate.
onenonly101
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:13 PM)
if your parents didn't give into temptation you wouldnt be here

princess - when did i bash god?

being sarcastic towards God is bashing Him

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well you see... she gave the credit for my work to her imaginary friend, so i gave the credit for her work to my imaginary friend, santa clause.


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i dont think its wrong of you weirdos to think people like me will burn forever, but i do think its bizarre. really bizarre.
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:22 PM)
saying being gay is not only bashing, but completely inappropriate.

umm we were talking abt REAL gays...iono what u r talkin abt but it makes no sense
IIO__oII
lets get back on track, shall we? happy.gif
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i really see no reason to believe in him. there are so many arguments to his non existence. come on, you religious fanatics. bring it on.

i have a question..... wut PROOF of a non existing God world is there?? do u guys have ani? i'd like to knoe em... =]
princess2113
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:23 PM)
being sarcastic towards God is bashing Him

yes! gud job AGAIN biggrin.gif my point exactly!
machinoman
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 7:24 PM)
umm we were talking abt REAL gays...iono what u r talkin abt but it makes no sense

i meant to say "saying being gay is wrong"
EmeraldKnight
Machinoman, I realli have to give you credit for continuing this debate.. you have real determination
darkcoldplace
QUOTE(waccoon @ May 12 2004, 6:35 AM)
i really see no reason to believe in him. there are so many arguments to his non existence. come on, you religious fanatics. bring it on.

nick youre too funny wanna start sumthin boxing.gif and yes i believe in god whatcha gonna do about it?? huh huh bring it! happy.gif
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:25 PM)
i meant to say "saying being gay is wrong"

it is
IIO__oII
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Machinoman, I realli have to give you credit for continuing this debate.. you have real determination



princess2113, i have to give u credit for continuing this debate. u have real determination! biggrin.gif good JOB!!
machinoman
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 23 2004, 7:25 PM)
lets get back on track, shall we? happy.gif

i have a question..... wut PROOF of a non existing God world is there?? do u guys have ani? i'd like to knoe em... =]

The onus of proof is on you who allege.
onenonly101
Real determination or actually wanting to know because if you didn't want to you would have stopped. you aren't doing this to make Christians doubt themselves anymore because you have stayed, asked more questions to find out the answers you say you don't believe but you are hearing and closing it off completely or you wouldn't still be reading these pages . anyways getting back on topic with debating God...

i meant that to machinoman
princess2113
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:29 PM)
Real determination or actually wanting to know because if you didn't want to you would have stopped. you aren't doing this to make Christians doubt themselves anymore because you have stayed, asked more questions to find out the answers you say you don't believe but you are hearing and closing it off completely or you wouldn't still be reading these pages . anyways getting back on topic with debating God...

lol no im not?
IIO__oII
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The onus of proof is on you who allege.

wut??? sorri but i didnt get that..?
machinoman
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 23 2004, 7:30 PM)
wut??? sorri but i didnt get that..?

it means the person that says theres a god must prove theres a god
princess2113
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 23 2004, 7:30 PM)
wut??? sorri but i didnt get that..?

me either im confused with that
IIO__oII
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it means the person that says theres a god must prove theres a god


well... shouldnt the ppl who says that there isnt a god prove that there isnt an actual GOd that control this universe..?
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:32 PM)
it means the person that says theres a god must prove theres a god

we gave u our proof...but we live off faith...faith is believing w/o seeing...we have FAITH...we know we r rite..we know where we r going...we know what happens....itslike starting at the end of a book...we already know the ending....but we r reading through the pages......the pages r like our life on earth...but we KNOW everythings gonna b ok..for US
machinoman
nope. otherwise i could just allege anything. if i alleged there was life on mars, you wouldn't have to disprove it, because i have no basis.

also, the bible says being black is wrong.
ComradeRed
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 7:33 PM)
we gave u our proof...but we live off faith...faith is believing w/o seeing...we have FAITH...we know we r rite..we know where we r going...we know what happens....itslike starting at the end of a book...we already know the ending....but we r reading through the pages......the pages r like our life on earth...but we KNOW everythings gonna b ok..for US

Faith, as in:

1) I have lost all faith in your ability to spell.
2) Faith Sadar is a policy debater from North Hills HS.
IIO__oII
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also, the bible says being black is wrong.


where the HECK did it say that?????
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:35 PM)
nope. otherwise i could just allege anything. if i alleged there was life on mars, you wouldn't have to disprove it, because i have no basis.

also, the bible says being black is wrong.

um if it says that it prolly represents evil for one..it also says that Jesus loves all...u know the song.."Jesus luvs the lil children..all the children of the world..RED AND YELLO BLACK AND WHITE..they r precious in His site...Jesus luvs the children of the world"...hello ppl Jesus isnt white he was BROWN so i dunt think a lil color in the skin wuld bother Him one bit
machinoman
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 7:33 PM)
we know we r rite..we know where we r going...we know what happens....itslike starting at the end of a book...we already know the ending....but we r reading through the pages......the pages r like our life on earth...but we KNOW everythings gonna b ok..for US

"True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. And in knowing that
you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all." —Socrates
princess2113
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 23 2004, 7:37 PM)
where the HECK did it say that?????

yes id like to know also
machinoman
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 7:37 PM)
um if it says that it prolly represents evil for one..it also says that Jesus loves all...u know the song.."Jesus luvs the lil children..all the children of the world..RED AND YELLO BLACK AND WHITE..they r precious in His site...Jesus luvs the children of the world"...hello ppl Jesus isnt white he was BROWN so i dunt think a lil color in the skin wuld bother Him one bit

which verse of that song says except gays?
onenonly101
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also, the bible says being black is wrong.

what bible have you been reading?
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:39 PM)
which verse of that song says except gays?

Jesus says love all...u can LOVE gays in Christ...u dunt like what they r doing

its like with a kid...they arent a BAD kid..they make BAD choices...like u for example
machinoman
gays are born gay
blacks are born black
onenonly101
we never said God doesn't love gays. maybe words and pharases that we haven't said just pop onto your screen and for some reason we can't see where we said that.

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"True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. And in knowing that
you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all." —Socrates


That would mean nothing to me because he is not accredited in the bible for saying that. no one knows EVERYTHING
IIO__oII
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gays are born gay
blacks are born black


nope.. gays arent actually born gay... they choose to be gay later in their life
onenonly101
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gays are born gay
blacks are born black


you are not born gay
machinoman
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:43 PM)
no one knows EVERYTHING

no one knows anything
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:42 PM)
gays are born gay
blacks are born black

yup well im not gonna debate the gay issue when it doesnt pretain to the topic nemore....we r all born sinners....n like i said Jesus loves all..gay included...blacks included
n i wuld like the Bible verse plz
machinoman
ill trade you for the gay verse, plus three dollars.
onenonly101
Leviticus 18:22

Do not practice homosexuality; it is a destable sin
IIO__oII
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ll trade you for the gay verse, plus three dollars.



1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

where my 3 dollars? =] jk
machinoman
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:46 PM)
Leviticus 18:22

Do not practice homosexuality; it is a destable sin

actually its "You shall not lie with men as with women. It is abomination."
Abomination means unclean. It's not about a moral or ethical issue.
onenonly101
actually it says it exactly what i wrote this si a new living translation bible. what is yours
princess2113
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 23 2004, 7:48 PM)
actually its "You shall not lie with men as with women. It is abomination."
Abomination means unclean. It's not about a moral or ethical issue.

differant Bibles r worded differantly
machinoman
i give up. convincing you everyone is equal is harder than convincing hitler to spare the jews.
closing statement: hate who you want, i give up. but i gaurantee being gay will be ok in like twenty years, so enjoy this while you can.

i hope you all donate the vast majority of your future earnings to the church. laugh.gif

oh and don't forget to see Saved! with mandy moore and mckully culkin, it looks hilarious and its about you guys.
onenonly101
about you guys now you actually do make me laugh. EVERYONE IS EQUAL. WE DO NOT HATE GAYS. iswear what are you reading? i tell you seriously various words and statements that we never said must be popping onto your screen. Thank you though for testing me it has builded me up
princess2113
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 8:01 PM)
about you guys now you actually do make me laugh. EVERYONE IS EQUAL. WE DO NOT HATE GAYS. iswear what are you reading? i tell you seriously various words and statements that we never said must be popping onto your screen. Thank you though for testing me it has builded me up

lol if we hated all sinners we wuld hate every1...which btw Jesus tells us not to hate...luv every1...just not luv what all they do sumetimes...so forgive me if this is rude...but ur making this up b/c u have no clue what to say b/c we KNOW what we r talking abt so we r ready for nething yall bring on!! CHRISTIAN PRIDE!!
Spirited Away
Okay back from hiding.

There are no exact evidences that can prove gays are born that way. No one knows whether or not it's nature or nuture, so please do not say that 'gays are born that way' with so much conviction.

As for the subject of God, there will never be a right or wrong.

Christians will say that they're right and non-believers will say that they the ones who're right. So in essence, there isn't a right or wrong because no one can agree on what's right and what's wrong.
ComradeRed
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 23 2004, 7:40 PM)
what bible have you been reading?

The Holy one...
princess2113
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 23 2004, 8:37 PM)
Okay back from hiding.

There are no exact evidences that can prove gays are born that way. No one knows whether or not it's nature or nuture, so please do not say that 'gays are born that way' with so much conviction.

As for the subject of God, there will never be a right or wrong.

Christians will say that they're right and non-believers will say that they the ones who're right. So in essence, there isn't a right or wrong because no one can agree on what's right and what's wrong.

YAY!! ur back biggrin.gif
yes there is no evidence...but even if they r...they can refuse the temptation
with the subject of God...YES there is a rite n wrong...just not every1 knows it yet...but one day they will...like i said one day ur gonna go that lil kid frum cb was rite...when ur in hell u'll wished u had opened up more ((im not the Judger only God is so i dunt mean to judge))
there is a right n wrong...u dunt have to agree on it for it to exist...if ur teacher says dunt chew gum in class...n u do..its wrong...u dunt agree with it..yet it IS wrong...

glad ur back tongue.gif
princess2113
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 23 2004, 8:40 PM)
The Holy one...

theres more then one...n more than one version
ryfitaDF
how bout the bible has been revised about 7 times.

you're probably reading king james' version. who knows how he changed it?
ComradeRed
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 23 2004, 8:47 PM)
theres more then one...n more than one version

But there is only one true Ko'ran. Allah wrote it himself.
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