hold on- head staff could edit signatures?

Hey--

I think that people putting myspace, xanga, livejournal, and deviantart are advertising those sites!

-I was going to write out this whole thing, until I saw Michael's post. And he basically said everything I was going to point out.
- It's hard getting the whole committee to talk about this now, especially around the holidays and all. But this will be addressed. I actually thought that advertisements were allowed in personal sigs until a couple of weeks ago. I really don't see a problem about advertising other sites in your sig.
-Linda Belle and (edit) Molly (sorry for callin you erica, got confused at first lol),
I understand why you guys are getting upset. But thanks for bringing it out in the open. Take deep breaths you guys, it'll sort out. Remember the by-laws aren't even official yet. We're just trying to work everything out and talk about it first.

Now for Michael's post that show my views on this topic as well:
(if you want me to write out my own, then that's fine. Michael just said it so well that I wanted to quote him, and I don't have a lot of time right now to type it out)

My name is Molly....and ERIAnight is my screenname........but that's okay....I understand

I'm Nuetral !

Myspace, Xanga, and Live journal are completely acceptable for certain reasons. It's suppose to be about blogging and graphic situation.... plus, it's consider cB's purpose and service. If cB banned them, cB is totally pointless with no goal. Therefore, cB is useless. That’s why there are certain sites that are not acceptable due to competitions.

Hopefully, the bylaw mod will clear things up about advertising since advertisements had been one of the major problems with members ... for a long time.



I don’t know how long you been around in cB but ... there was many related problems with other forum such as stealing, shit talking, forum adviser being an ass with another forum member, hateful spamming, and ... maybe hacking? Therefore, it's kind of ruining cB's reputation and environments. It can lead to more issues. (influence)

If there was no such thing as competing sites, it's pointless to produce massive friendly forums serving the same goal.



I'm not asking you for his point. Sorry.
I'm asking him .. what's the point of his post.
I think hearing from his opinon is more accurate.

^ You make CB sound paranoid

Oh. This part ? Hey, everything did happened.

Well you still make Cb seem like it's not up to a challenge.

personally, i believe that in signatures, which as michael said are personal, there needs to be NO ban on advertising websites

again, as michael said, cb does not make money from its skins. therefore, by people visiting other sites. cb is not losing out. the real heart of cb lies in its community, who will visit the site anyway, regardless of where they get their skins.

let people show off their sites. they are proud of them, and deservedly.

oh, and to whoever had their signatures editted, do what i did the first time christina removed my GenF link: put it right back.

Um .. cB does make money in some way. Did you know.. you can advertise in ad? click on "Advertise on this site "

Through the GOOGLE ADS at the top of the screen.

Not through the layouts.

Guest: thank you!

kristina...the guest is james.

i agree with michael as well . . .

all in favor of free advertisement in sigs aye or nay (i guess we'll go ahead and vote on this now and when micron comes around again he can "okay" it if its aye'd, because we dont know all of the technicallities)

Aye

Aye

Pretty sure you're not on the committee

aye

-Aye-

Sorry Molly, I got your name wrong :(
For some time i've really been thinking your name was Erica :(
I think i was confusing you with someone else. My apologies.

aye

neutral

well thats 6 ayes counting mine, so motion passed!

//edit

also remember that the bylaws ARE NOT in effect yet

Let's see if jusun lee will tolerate advertisement .... since i'm assuming he made a rule about advertising.

I didn't even get to votttte! booo

Anyways, it is really up to Jusun.

We've been through this with Clique. Non-commercial, non-competing sites were allowed back then, I don't see why they shoulnd't be now.

Sorry. I really dont know. Ask him. He's a god of cB.

Btw, i'm not against advertisement. I really dont mind about advertising.

Goddamn, I can't even go on vacation without people telling me I'm avoiding something...

Maybe mods were "avoiding" the thread because it's the holidays and we're all either not home or spending time with our families. Dearly sorry.

Clique was deemed noncompeting before CB offered website templates as well. Now that CB has website layouts, and Clique does too, we are competing to have people that use our layouts instead of Clique's. When someone offers the same things to a mass of people, they are competing to get the most people.

I'll try to be on more often.

It's not your fault. cB is not forcing you.

Not forcing me to what?
Maybe if people wouldn't accuse mods of avoiding things when the thread's been open for a day and we're all on vacation, I wouldn't be peeved.

I don't like being accused of things wrongly.

Oh. Nevermind.

just dont pm me asking me to join. piece of shit mikestah

^ Honey, that was irrelevant.

GOT HERE LATE [darn moving], but this was something I was in a tizzy about [I think my signature was the first edited], and I'm very glad this was addressed.

I agree with all of the pro statements. Not that it matters.

If I do recall correctly, dear, I got attacked (not by you, specifically) for "avoiding" a certain thread for less than 24 hours, when I was merely going through my ordinary motions of everyday life, but that's neither here nor there.

Jusun never outlawed advertisements in signatures, so I'm really not sure what the big deal is. None of the forums in question are "competing" at all.

+sigh+

If that was to me, I was not accusing you personally. There were mods on who read the topic and never responded. Don't take it personally. I understand mods are extremely busy.

++

And thank you committee.

<333s at nicki.

how did this actually become an issue out of interest? because i had a GenF link in my signature for months, i only took it out (myself, i wasnt asked to) just before i was suspended, and that was never an issue

With all due respect, perhaps the mods thought it wise to interject one intelligent statement that explained the whole issue, rather than getting into a back-and-forth "shouting match" that explained nothing.

Ooh, here's the link (about clique):
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61088

On the side note, I hope no one is taking this personally. If cB is just a forum, then it would be best to think this through calmly. Not targetting this towards a single individual, but just a note, in case of any future arguments that might get out of hand, that's all.

I apologize for the late reply, but Retrogressive, I was the one who deleted your signature. As well as for Fabio.'s (I think? I know I deleted some). I only did so because this rule was inforced a while ago within that thread although back then, we didn't have a by-laws. Now that I've read all the feedback from this, I've come to the conclusion that it's understandable that none of all the websites are "commercial," but perhaps.. Jusun meant a different kind of commercial? I guess back then, because of the whole clash between cB and clique, that this rule was inforced since clique drew out a number of cB members, and since some of the mods from cB, mind all the present mods, were also mods on clique.

Perhaps the unofficial rule was inforced due to the fact that mods and ex-mods of cB were mods on clique, that Jusun made that rule? There was a discussion about it before.. Somewhere.. Hmm...

But now it's understandable because many new forums are more based on broader topics irrelevant to cB in many ways, so this rule could be removed. I do apologize for quickly acting without consent of others. I will take all the blame since it was a mistake due to my part, since I am one of the few that still remember that rule. It was an unofficial rule, so it's good that this is being brought up in by-laws so that we can finally have a set of official laws that will eliminate any loopholes and ambiguities. :]

If Jusun doesn't ge there first, I'll be sure to speak to him about this very soon.

Thank you for participating. =D About her website, time changes. Createblog now offer website templates.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPAM THE NEW BOARD... ASTIG.NET/FORUMS

JOIN NOW !

^ umm we're talking about in signatures, not in posts.
So that is irrelevant to this topic.

well said.

unoffcial rules just lead to unfortunate circumstances. heh.



just a pet peeve... i do wish mods would stop apologizing for enforcing rules... it is what you're here for, after all... don't apologize, just write it down so people KNOw the rules they are expected to follow.

I hope no one takes it personally. CB is a forum, not a big drama hole. I was just trying to point out how serious this was if it continued without being adressed. The fact that it had to do with my own forum was almost irrelevant. (So in other words, I'd be irrational if I took it as personal). Thank you for finally addressing the subject (I know you've been busy).

//edit

It's quite obvious why Jusun has made you admin, you are so level headed and straight forth. I really appreciate your honesty and how you deal with matters at CB.

The bylaw is not officially inforced yet, STOP SPAMMING and ... dont hang around in here if you're not trying to be reasonable w/ yourself.

I
I'll talk to Jusun about it tomorrow :]

lol as for the admin thing... It's not as easy as it looks, to be level headed lol. It my fault anyway, since I took this matter in my own hands, without exactly discussing it with everyone else. Assumptions = bad

Back to vacation.. bbl =X

Yes, i know of a lot of forums which have a "Plug Forum" solely for the purposes of

a) Stop people advertising in the wrong threads
b) Stop people advertising in their signatures
and
c) Anybody who wants to advertise, can advertise.

It's not a bad idea...

^
i believe its already been voted on and waiting on jusuns approval.

Jusun and the admins will read over it over and approve when the by-laws as a whole are completed.

i was just talking about pauls post about advertising, not about by-laws.

I don't think Jusun has time to look at advertising alone unless it was something that cannot wait.

As well, I don't see a need to have a Plug Forum. We simply can't let anyone who wishes to advertise. A link that doesn't provide useful information is usually considered advertising. We've had this rule since the beginning so I doubt it.

i thought your signature was free space...free to put whatever you wanted into it. i had a link to a forum in my sig for almost 2 months and it was never removed.