yea. no changes, no complaints. so this should not be in feedback.

a thread to comment about the new staff selection.

(ok so this is a complaint, this part, but it's not the main part of the thread)
i for one don't like the practice of deleting applications after the new staffers are announced. i think some of us would like to be able to see who's application was better. of course, it could open up the selection people to criticism (if people think the application sucked), but sometime public criticism is a good thing.

right. now on to the main part.

were you suprised at any of the selections, or who wasn't selected?


i was quite expecting michael to be people staff. maybe his app sucked, the world will never know...

When I saw this topic, it scared me for a second, haha.

I was actually expecting Michael to be a mod, too. Hrmmm.

hm, well im not surprised. everyone who i thought would make it made it.
i was somewhat expecting micheal to become a mod though, also.

I dont think reading the applications after the hiring is done is that important. In fact, I dont think they factor much at all in the modding process. The way a member carries themself around the forums and contributes speaks volumes.

I agree with Kiera. I don't think it is necessary. Wouldn't it just cause more drama too?

I am supprised on one/two of the choices because i had a few people i really hoped would make it , since there great people. The choices that were made were good ones though .

then what, pray tell, exactly is the point of applications...

and if it's not judged from apps, then isn't it kinda biased to favor those liked by the selection people?

Notice I said "factor much" in the modding process. How much of this factor it plays in the actually modding process, I dont know. Why dont you ask Jusun? All I know is, how well a application is written is not the most important in the modding process, thus not essential to keep open after the modding process is over.

ahh well let's try to keep it away from that topic, shall we?

if needed i'll edit the name to something like.. suprised?

well, i was suprised alvin... er... maestro, wasn't selected. i'm not too familar with the design section, but he seems pretty dedicated to me...



i guess, if you want to, move this to feedback and change it to a topic about deleting the applications after announcing the hires... but i'd prefer leaving that till some actual mudslinging is going on...

i havent been around for the last two weeks so i don't really know what is going down here right now.. i see what ur talking about tho.

I, for one, was very happy to see the people who were selected as mods get selected. Yes, there were some people that weren't chosen that would have made great mods as well but like it was already stated many times previously, there were only a limited amount of spots open. I think that those hired were hired for a reason and will do a wonderful job. As far as the applications go, not only do I think that they were considered when deciding which canidates to select for the posistions, but it also gave an opportunity for those applying to show some effort and dedication. I am very pleased. Congratulations and good luck to the new mods

yea, i'm not saying the people selected will be bad mods, because i think it would take a monkey on a power trip to be a bad mod (but that's my opinion of a bad mod, which is one who deletes and closes random threads, IP bans you for saying helll, etc. )

i think they'll do a fine job, but i wasn't exactly expecting them...

what are the factors that are used to judge mod applicants anyways? it's not the app, so is it likablility? signature? following of rules? general attitude? opinions of the public?

EDIT

yea this is probably going to turn into a complaint about how we don't know how mods are selected, and i'll draw criticism from the staff because "you don't need to know" and " you're just stirring up trouble", but if it does, feel free to move to feedback.

hi there,
this time around, i chose the new staff members based on the number of times they appeared on the old staff's new staff list. heh, what a mouthful. as someone mentioned, there were so many qualified candidates but only so many spots available.

if you're concerned about transparancy, which is a very good thing for cb, i recommend you start a petition to create the bylaws for createblog. that way, everyone will know exactly what and how every process works.

there are many reasons why he wasn't chosen...dedication isnt every thing

*sigh* Justiiiiin..

I was also surprised, but I'm not disappointed in the new ones. They are good choices..there's just some I would have chosen otherwise.

I am actually surprised that suzzette got picked.

I think instead of Apps, we should have like a bunch of people see the people's personality as well, like you know seeing how they are when on cB and online. I mean Apps too but lets say someone who's really good can't write good Apps. They're basically screwed.

P.S. I think I made no sense....

jusun, are you meaning that you picked the staff based on the current staff's picks? that confused me how you worded it.

anyways, as many were, i was surprised michael didnt get it. ah well. its done and over with. nothing we can do now.

it seems as though the girls really out number the guys though. i think there are 4? guys on the whole staff (not counting jusun). maybe its just that girls are better.

why is that surprising?

can i just say, if a set of by-laws is written for CB, can we PLEASE have non-staff input?

in terms of CB, many of the staff are mildly to extremely conservative, and if the staff are being selected from staff picks (there is NO non-confusing way to word that succinctly), then we are likely to get a lot of people with the same views....

i wasnt AT ALL dissapointed with this staff selection, and actually, i wasntTHAT surprised by micahel not being modded... it was only the first tim ehe had aapplied, and other people have been around longer, have made more of an impact on the community etc... he would have been good though. mind you, so would i... ah well.

p.s. i like justin. justin is good.

Are you serious? I think I'm the only conservative on staff right now. Everyone else seems to be on my left.

[edit] There would always be one other conservative, first it was Kathleen, then uninspiredfae, but they're both gone now.

no, i didnt mean in terms of actual politics, i meant in terms of like 'cb politics' e.g. making changes, listening to members, etc.

Ok...this should be in feedback if relates the some sort of by-laws for cB.

Moved to feedback

yeah, there's definitely reasons why he wasn't.


seriously? i see several reasons why that doesn't exacty make sense...

oh, and Julia, I got caught up in physics homework today at lunch and forgot to tell you congrats!!

^
*cough* conservative staffer

*runs away and hides*

Awww. Thanks, Nicki! :D <3

I think all of the mods chosen are very dedicated and hardworking. I see no problem at all. ( Not that I'm saying any of you guys do.)

f**k off. When I see a good idea, I'll acknowledge it.

f**k off yourself.

you told me yesterday that you didnt care about what was being suggested in the feedback forum. how will you ever see a good idea with that attitude?

actually, i was suggesting that the community make the bylaws.

oh, good!

then i agree.

although if we try and have mass input, say in one thread its going to be messy, lots of distracting arguments, repetiotion etc.

how about we assign a committee, say, 5 members, 5 staff, probably including at least one headstaff, who can deal with it on an invision board

that's not what I said at all. don't twist my words.

^2 How exactly does that involve the community, again? Community input was what kept the cB rev alive.

If you're going to choose members, isnt that in some ways like picking staff? You can't just assume the staff is biased because they don't agree with you. You're obnoxious when you argue.

Yeah, Kiera makes a point too. And she wasn't staff when that went on, either.

well, perhaps we assign 10 people to do the actual writing, but make teh invisionboard open for everyone to view, then they can pm ideas to posters for discussion, if they see something going disasterously wrong

as for who would write it, it shouldnt matter, as they wouldnt be directly representing their own views. i just thought we would ask for volunteers, and take the first 5 from each (excluding any obvious time wasters)

*shrugs* it was just an idea to keep things tdy, i dont really feel strongly about it one way or the other.

and nicki, i was barely tweeking your words. your words were 'i dont care'

nicki, what do you mean?

james, if the by-laws are going to be written, ill step up and help.

yes, but on an entirely different matter. we cannot have another topic backstage for every topic presented in feedback. that's unreasonable.


I don't understand how Michael didn't make it if that was the case.

oh, i see now. i was wondering about that today when i was semi talking to him in p/ms

it was hardly an entirey different matter. and i didnt sy each issue deserved a seperate thread, just that it deserved at lest an appropriate amount of discussion.
if you would like, i could post our converssation here

No, not everything does. There's a fine line between being open-minded and conosidering things that shouldn't be considered. It's not like we don't consider things. However, we cannot just change everything on the whim of someone who doesn't fully understand how it is to run this forum.

here the revolution goes again.

james and nicki- why have you been fighting so much lately? you used to get along so well.

i said that everything deserves the appropriate amount of consideration. suggestions like 'lets give everyone with 50 posts modding powers' (or whatever) deserves zero consideration

however, there have been ideas in here which have not been given due attention. or, if they have, we havent been told, which is just not good sense

spencer - im not trying to have a revolution... this thread is jus tnconveniently named

no, the whole revolution comment wasnt directed in your way, nor nicki's. it just seems that no one is getting along now that the new staff has been named.

oh.

well, please no one interpret this to mean that i am in ANY way dissatisfied with the choice of staff... i most certainly am not

sounds good to me. ill let you and sadolakced acid appoint the 5 members, since you two seem to be more inclined than most in cb politics. you may appoint yourselves. ill see who from the staff team wishes to participate and come up with the five staff.

we'll need a temporary subforum during the creation of the bylaws. one pinned topic with the most current working copy of the bylaws. and the forum open to everyone for input and discussion. the process will be completely transparant, anyone can bring up anything they want to see in the bylaws. the committee will have to come to a consensus in what to include and what to leave out. they will be the ones that will do the actual writing of the working copy of the bylaws.

the bylaws should include how it will be approved, terminated, ammendments (vote by community? staff? etc). lets make this thorough please.

ill check back tonight. im the meantime, google is our friend.

oh yea, when you appoint people, try to get a diverse group, not just your allies. i will be looking to do the same.

^

yay!

do we want a subforum, or should we have an invison board, with one forum for suggestions from members, and then another where we actually hammer out details, and do the writing

i appoint myself, and specer, as he expressed interest.

reserving one spot for justin, assuming he wants it, would anyone other memeber care to voulnteer. and duly noted about balance. we need a couple of girls, preferabley someone with somewhat cponservative views towards createblog, as well as someone more centerist

I will volunteer from the mod side.

As do I

haha specer.

lol. james i just p/med you. just ignore it. its about signing up for it.