PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

Maybe your school is harder. Our school believes in students getting the recommended 20 minutes of cardio a day and for them to try their best at stuff. Skill is only worth something like 5 percent of a mark. Participation, effort, etc, are huge chunks of the course.

So when I suck at something (er...everything), I pretend like I'm working hard to try ny best. All 3 years of high school, I've gotten 90 and above averages.

Yeah. Our system makes more sense to me.

in my school we have to run 3/4 of a mile every friday...and if we don't get under 10 minutes then we get a zero. i think it's unfair because there are some overweight/out of shape people that can't physically run it that fast...and that shouldn't affect their grade. it should be about the EFFORT, not how FAST they are.

Well, first of all, there's no reason that everyone should get an A; an A represents a group of students at the top of their class, which isn't everyone.

Secondly, the requirements don't seem that high. 15 push-ups? That's certainly not an unreasonable amount. If someone can only do 2-3, then he should be working hard in order to increase that.

8 minute mile, or 10 for girls? That's a bit strenuous--it is a pace of 7-1/2 miles per hour--but it's not overly difficult for just one mile.

Most students at the school could only meet the "C" requirementsfor PE. And the "A" in high school is really important for students who wanted to get into a good university.


IT MATTERS. MANY HONORS STUDENTS (like me) GET STRAIGHT A's EXCEPT FOR PE. Academic and social abilities are much more important than physical strength (you don't need to run fast/do push-ups in order to get into a good college, but of course, we need exercisng, but we can decide on how much running/push-ups we can do based on our strength).

People from my school take AP courses because they want to bring up their GPAs due to PE.

I try my very best in PE, but still my grade isn't good at all.

PE grade should be based on your effort, not your physical strength.

An A in high school PE isn't a huge deal to colleges; at any rate, the excuse "students need A's to get into college" is what makes grade inflation at high schools such a problem. In the end, an A means very little.

Like it or not, a C is average, and there's no reason everyone should get an A in every class for doing a mediocre amount of work--including physical education. Getting top grades means putting some work into something; if you can't do 15 pushups or can't run an 8-minute mile but need the grade, start doing pushups every day or running a mile everyday for practice. You shouldn't get an A for doing no work outside of class, just because you need it to get into a good college. A school or teacher is not obligated to give you an A, just so you get into the college of your dreams.

Ehh, I don't think those requirements are too hard...My school doesn't really have requirements, and a 10 minute mile isn't that hard to do.
And, like mipadi said, colleges don't really care about your PE grade, it doesn't even factor into my school's transcript averages.

Here, we get to pick 5 courses to be averaged for colleges.

Oh, and we get 20 minutes to run a few blocks. XD

15 push-ups... all it takes is 15.... you cannot be serious... out of 50 your saying only TWO of them are able to do 15, and that most can only do 2 or 3.... WOW

I'm sorry but this just adds in to why america is being seen as one of the more lazy countries.

I guess I can see the mile run part, there are those who have the stregnth but may not have the endurance for such.

The standards for my school were higher, 30 pushups, 6 min. for guys and 8 for girls on the mile run. Most were able to make it. There were only a few unable to pass.

but like others have said... it doesn't really factor in for colleges. Come on though... only 15 pushups... my brother can double that and hes 7!!!

PE shouldn't be in High Schools. It should only be in Elementary schools and Middle Schools. It's a pointless class that hurts many people's GPA.
We get graded if we change for gym, and if we participate...the whole time. And the gym teachers are these sexist men who don't care if a girl is feeling well for obvious reasons...It's really annoying. I don't have a problem with the workout because I can do a lot of pushups and crunches, but I can't run. I'm a slow runner and I have trouble breathing when I run. I hate it completely. The best time I ever got was 8:30 on the mile. Everything else was between that and 9:45, so I just make it for 10 minutes.

Seriously though, "Those who can't teach, teach gym." That's what everyone says in my school because our gym teachers can't teach...they're horrible people and they have no lives! Ugh...I hate gym...

It matters for your GPA in my school. Everyone should get an A in gym for at least trying...heck, we shouldn't have it anyway like I stated above. It just hurts your grade.

I really don't like that schools care so much on MANY you do and not HOW HARD you try. For instance, I can do about 30-40 CORRECT push ups which honestly doesn't seem alot, but I know some people who say they do at least 100 a day and yet I have much more muscle in the arms and abs.

I took online PE. The mile (the one thing we did at school) was essentially a participation grade, and you just had to write about whether or not your time improved and made your goal or something like that. But, so, uh, both times I cheated and still wound up with times in the 10- and 11-minute range. I just stopped a couple laps early, because no one could prove otherwise and I lost count. I walked nearly all of it, though, because I found someone to talk to, and neither of us gave a damn and didn't even pretend to tie.

But a 8 minute mile just to pass? No f**king way. I'd fail. I can't run worth anything. It could actually kill me.

Again, Im Canadian. Standards are different.
First, for us; it would not affect getting into a good university. They won't look at your phys. ed marks, and you can drop the course in grade 10.
Our standards aren't as high either, participation and enthusiasm is most important. Your athletic ablility is still part of it, but you won't be penalized as much for it. Even with these low standards a lot of people happend to fail phys. ed by not showing up, skipping class, etc. -.-

Just out of curiosity, how much running or pushups do you do outside of class?

Uh, it helped my GPA. For us, it doesn't matter if you do it well, just so long as you do it. (and that's on and offline. it's pretty easy to get away with faking things either way)

I think the curriculum is just fine for physical education. Although I think yours is harder, I personally love the class. It's seriously an easy GPA booster and you get exercise.

In my P.E. class this year, we have so little people we get to create our own lesson plans and walk around the track on tuesdays.

It's so awesome...

Rin-chan

I think that's why you work for it.

Wow, your school standards are a tod bit too harsh for u guys. At our high school, we just have to run without stopping the whole time and we get full marks no matter how far we ran.

Our school requirements are harder! We have to do at least 20pushups(girls)35(guys), 45situps(girls)50(guys)3pullups(girls)6pullups(guys) a mile in 8min. for girls and 7minuts for guys. sometimes we even have to do two miles in one day! We do lunges around the school yard and we have to do the "chair" which is when you act like your sitting without a chair below. IT all counts for your grade.

Is your PE class coed? because at my new highschool PE is coed =/
and if the guys cant get 15 pushups thats....erm lol
when i was a freshman in my PE class(at my old school), we had to do at least 35 pushups in 35 seconds. for testing.
we'd run a mile for even talking. same went for my girl cousin who went to the same school.

Now im not in PE. im in Jv basketball, and they let basketball practice(as well as any other athletics) take place of your last class period(which is the best idea ever!) because at my school class periods are an hour and a half long. since we have a "divided schedule". and now that i look back on PE i wish we had it as easy as they do lol. because you run a mile every day in basketball for warm up=/. and have to get at least 6:30. and then run one after weight training.I'll admit, i puked in a trash can my first day lol along with others. but now, im starting to like it. because im getting in really great shape. so whats my point? STOP WHINING.
you dont have it bad at all, and you should get in shape somehow.


and of course i agree with Suzzette. you might think we go to the same school or something ha.

omg they made us run 2 miles it was horrible

Consider yourself lucky mine is way worse than that! Every week we have a 25 minute run where you have to run around the track for 25 minutes and the grading scale is:

6 laps: D
7 laps: C
8 laps: B
9 laps: A-
10 laps: A

When we do mile runs (which is a very happy time when we do) you have to get under 8 minutes (both girls and guys) but just about everyone does.

For pushups we have to do 25 (girls) and 30 (guys) and crunches 50 (girls) 60 (guys)
And this is only middle school! High school has 40 minute runs...

oh my that sucks...well at my school we have like fitness tests every term...and well we have to run like 6 laps around our 400m thingy and we have to get around uner 13 mins for an A and then pushups...its around i ono cuz in my school it depends on ur age(its called the canadian fitness something something =S)..if u're 13 then its like 21 push ups for A under 14 to be an A? im not sure =S but that mile thing i think it is kind of harsh...maybe they just want u guys to work harder? build muscles so u can be fit and stuff?

I HATE GYM THIS YEAR.reason why- because we have to do a gym report every term.

Same here.

i dont mean to be mean... but those requirments are pretty low. i'm in middle school and even though our standards are lower, our average is much, much higher (than the standards).

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Standards for eight graders:
Pushups: 14+ for boys and 11+ for girls
Mile: 7-8 minutes for boys and 9-10 for girls
Situps: (i forget)

Average for eigth graders(in my school):
Pushups: 30+ for boys and 25+ for girls
Mile: 8 minutes for both boys and girls
Situps: 35+ for boys and girls

since you're high schoolers, the standards should be higher...

it doesn't bother me, because our coaches are tough and the school focuses more on pe and sports more than acedemics it feels like...so everyone in my grade is pretty athletic and we just do what were tolled and suck it up.

our standards are like 35 push ups (for everyone) no knee push ups
100 crunches (for everyone)
20 sit ups (everyone)
5 pull ups (in a row) everyone
2.5 minut invisible bench against the wall
sprint a lap, walk a lap, sprint 2 laps, walk a lap, sprint 3 laps...PE OVER!!!

i'm only in pe this semester because i dont wanna be on soccer and i'm waiting for lacrosse

and we dont have fitness tests we just have this daily routine everyday xept tuesday wich is block day.

Well I'm horribly unathletic.

But I got A's in PE.

Same set standard, same ballbustin teacher.

But you just gotta bust some balls right back for that A for the GPA!!!


FOR THE GPA!!! ARGHH!!

i think that if you spent some time working on your fitness outside of school or join a team you will do much better.

This proves that american's are very obese. Everyone should be able to meet does standards.

Um. That proves nothing.

Just because someone can't perform to a certain athletic ability, doesn't make them obese. Your BMI makes you obese.

And I totally disagree with people being able to meet these standards. Everyone is different, everyone has their own capabilities. To make a generalization or expectation that we all need to be able to do it properly...I find that hard to agree with.

That's also why I disagree with the strict requirements in P.E. I think that, as long as the students are making an effort to improve their life by being more active and having a healthy lifestyle, it's sufficient. The whole purpose of P.E. (to me, anyway) is to educate us about exercise and being active, since so many North Americans are overweight. We're not training for the freaking army here.

i think these standards dhould be lowered but are a positive way to combat the problem of overweight teens in america.

my school's PE requirement is that all you have to take is freshmen year PE and you're done for the rest of your Highschool life

dang those are some tough standards to meet, considering not everyone's gonna grow up to be a pro athlete -.-

but could be because theres a lot of fat people in the US, a long time ago i heard over half of the us population is obese... thats scary o.O

the running is a bit harsh. I can do under 10 minutes pretty easy. I started running an average of 7:55 for my miles near the end of last term.

However, 2-3 pushups is pretty damn weak. My 10 year old brother can do more than that. If you do 5-6 sets of 8 pushups everyday for a month, you should definitely see results. Also, it's better to exercise in a group.

Your standards are pretty normal to me.

Oh, and if you're trying your hardest everyday in PE, shouldn't you improve? If you call trying your very best trying hard on only a few days a week, and slacking the other days, then I can see why you have a low PE grade.

I don't consider myself to be exceptionally athletic, but I go out there and I give it everything I've got everyday. And I know a lot of kids that do too. But then there's a lot of kids that don't even try.

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I used to do that in middle school. My friend who is overweight and has asthma managed to speed-walk and partially run it in under 10 minutes.

I probably shouldn't be saying this but I would like my school to make us run for 25 minutes a day.
We doing nothing in our gym class and the most we run is 3 minutes!
In gym I would like to GET FIT, not play games.
My school does have it much easier though.

Wow, if your mile run is 10 minutes to get an A then consider yourself lucky. You basically are just doing light jogging to get to the end in 10 minutes. So no I don't think Physical Education has too high of standards. I actually think they are too low. Too many kids are getting fat, lazy, and out of shape. If a kid has asthma or something, then that's a different situation, but a teenager should be able to do more then 2-3 pushups.
Those standards that are set are pretty average. Most kids should be up to that level.
But that's just my opinion.

no.

between the ages of 10 and 13 has an 80 percent chance of becoming an obese adult.

i think its good. we only have to take pe one year which is kinda bad for excersizing because for the kids that dont do sports, they have no physical activity. and lots are lazy to go run laps at a nearby school or jog with the dog.

My school is like that too! And not only do they physically make us struggle they would make us watch this "physically educational" movie and write a report about it with requirements that aren't necessary. Then the PE teacher corrects the papers in such a way that you could tell they don't know what they're doing when it comes to grading papers!

While I agree that gym should be graded on effort, not ability, 15 pushups isn't that bad.

The only thing I hate is running the mile. It is just annoying. If I wanted to run, I'd do track mkay.

I would do ANYTHING to get out of PE. Anything, no joke. The day before that tri comes I always consider doing something to myself so that I won't have to go. It's the worst class ever. *sniffle*

I have never been in a P.E. class in my life, and I am a junior in high school. They dont make me do it because I f**ked my ankle up really bad when I was younger so I dont have to do it. HAHAHA!

lower the p.e standards ? well wouldn't that increase the population of obese people even MORE ?



though, i do agree, it should be based on effort, but then it shouldn't . i know people in my classes that just copy off homework and get A's without any effort, but people that DO put in effort and stuggle with a C or a B .


I have thoughts on this topic, but it's too hard for me to explain it all out.


But really though, 15 push ups is NOT A LOT, in my p.e class last year, in 8th grade, all you had to do was ONE PULL UP TO GET A PASSING GRADE , BUT MOST PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN DO IT. this is probably why other countries are so advanced than the US, our standards are so low.

here you only have to do PE for 2 years in high school to fulfill graduation requirements. the 1st year (usually 9th grade) is in junior high, so they don't make it too hard. and the last year is mostly health, so i dont think it's working out or anything.

but i think it's kind of the same with any other class- some ppl just can't do it (ex. math or art), but it doesnt mean that they should lower the standards

Yeah I agree. The standards are way to high. It's not fair to grade students on your physical ability. People should atleast be graded on effort. Your school's standards are not as bad as mine though. In my school you gotta be able to run 2 miles in 15 minutes, do atleast 20 pushups, try to get to 80 crunches and be able to do atleast 10 pull ups. Crazy stuff really. Had several people in my class pass out from all the strenuous workouts.

The standards for P.E are fine.
If you can't reach a certain criteria, work on it so you can.
At my school, our grade is based on how much we improve.
15 pushups is little..We have to do about 36 pushups, 36 situps, etc.
We have to do portfolios, which is 60% of our grade, so many of us get A's...

Our school's requirements are easy.
At least, the summer school P.E. class that I took was. The mile was actually a mile and a half, though, so the coaches were lenient. I think I got sixteen minutes? Haha. I hate running. Summer School P.E. is easily ace-able, even if you're physically inept.