I agree, PE should grade us by our efforts and not our physical strength
But i also agree that we should be able to do at least 10 push ups.
At least my parents don't care about PE. At least im fit, they'll be okay.
It's not that hard to do. PE IS a class. Practice everyday for homework.

At my school, the PE grade is based on effort and it's pretty fair, but even then a lot of people don't pass. I dunno...I guess our gym teacher is just evil. Still, I'm glad I don't have to do push-ups to pass PE.

[color=]I took PE during the summer and it rained a lot so we didn't couldn't really do much.... but yea our requirements for PE are about the same. *shrug* I don't think it's that unreasonable... I didn't mind.[/color]

well, maybe it's only your school. at our school, what we were graded on was on our effort and participation. but, by looking at the standards of your school, i personally think that it's much different than those in schools outside of the U.S. personally, i can do more than 15 situps AND can run the mile in under 10 minutes. when i took p.e., guys could do over 50 pushups and run the mile at around 6-7 minutes. and, i've never gotten anything below an A in p.e.

o_o. i got an a+ in gym&i like walked the mile.
and i got like 10 push-ups which really sucked.

Those requirements don't seem too harsh..

10 minutes for a run isn't hard at all.
15 push ups? It's really not that much either.

we have to run a mile almost every other day
pretty gay
to top it off if our class doesn't finish in under 10 mins
all together we do it again.
private school... rawr

I have to agree with everyone that said these requirements aren't too hard.

Honestly, if someone really does work at it to improve their weaknesses, meeting these requirements is not hard. Last year I had an obese friend who couldn't finish the mile in less than 13 minutes, so I worked with her practically everyday in my neighborhood. We would walk/jog for 30-45 minutes for 3-4 times a week. She improved gradually, and eventually she was able to finish the mile in less 10 minutes.

I couldn't pull ups or push ups. So everyday I would head to this park nearby and hang on a monkey bar for as long as possible to build up arm strength. And I did push ups according to day(ex: February 12 = 12 pushups), and now I can do pushups no problem in perfect form.

I remember in 4th grade my teacher used to make us run 3 laps everyday during recess before we could play. And you know what? Everyone in my class had a great mile time, superior to the other 4th grade classes, who weren't required to do so.

2 miles every Friday.
ughh.

motherf**king GEORGIA WANTS TO MAKE 30 MINUTES A DAYS OF PE FOR GRADES K-5 AND 45 MINUTES DAILY FOR GRADES 6-8. THIS WILL VIRTUALLY ELIMINATE MUSIC EDUCATION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND GREATLY RESTRICT ALL OTHER FINE ARTS CLASSES AS WELL. THEY'RE VOTING ON THE BLL THIS WEEK. IT'S THE MOST ABSURD THING EVER AND IT CAN'T f**king GO THROUGH. AS IF I DIDN'T NOT BELIEVE IN PE IN THE FIRST PLACE, IF THIS PASSES, WE WILL ALL RESENT IT COMPLETELY ARGHHHH

^oh my, but our P.E. classes are 90 minutes long.

then again, our school goes by block periods.

we do dancing in my school.
and we always have to be prepared, or else...FAIL!

we dance hip hop cause we have lessons and we have to do track, volley ball, soccer, basketball, tennis, wall climbing..etc..

at my school if u do a sport u dont have to do PE
but the sports are even more hardcore than PE
i do lacrosse and our school is really big on atheletics and they get all these coaches to push us out of our minds we work so hard. and i can hear acrose the feild the boys coach yelling at his group telling them to shut the hell up and run faster. but the PE group all they do work out with the track team...wich isnt too easy either

o___O

I can do 1 mile runs in 4 minutes or so.
Anyway your school is probably harder then others.

P.E. is a important class to me. I don't take P.E. I take Athletics. They have P.E. for a reason -to strengthen your muscles, and keep you moving. If it wasn't for P.E. classes, we would probably be un-healthy. Everyone needs some excerise (sp?).

argg...pe sucks at my school, first quarter we had to run a mile, second quarter we had to do gymnastics, and third quarter, which is what i'm currently in i have to do sqaure dancing, it's soo retarded!

^ but that doesn't sound tiring at all

i think ppl who hav trouble in PE shud treat it like an academic class.
To pass u need to study, so to pass fitness test, u shud train. I think its good for schools to hav higher standards of fitness and if students work hard to stay in shape it will ultimately benifit them.

doesnt sound very hard but i agree its not really fair cus people have diffrent ability and strength. but this is y folks, get in shape! im sure ur young..

Our PE grade is based on effort, participation, preparation, and attendance.

Participate? Good.
Give a decent amount of effort? Good.
Wear your uniform, wear sneakers, and take off all jewelry? Good.
Attend every class (except you can be absent for one)? Good.

You just got an E.


I wore my earrings twice during the swimming unit (because I just got them pierced) and I got an S. I was kind of ticked, but it didn't piss me off that much. I just thought it was kind of stupid.

We have physical fitness testing and stuff, but I think it's just for statistics and for your own idea of how in-shape you are. It doesn't count towards your grade.

If schools actually do that... I'd definitely protest or something!

At my school, I don't think you ARE graded on how fit you are. People do get good grades for effort.

But I do think our final is way too difficult. We had to run a mile in 10 minutes and under. It sounds like a long time, but for people like me, it was way too hard. My legs were like jello, I felt sick and dizzy. I don't think we practiced running enough to accomplish something like that, we wasted so much time doing stupid stretches at the beginning of class.

I don't think anyone who isn't ready for that should be forced to run. They should be given an alternative.

Although they should grade you on effort.. anyone who can't do 15 pushups is in sorry shape and probably deserves a low grade. ;/

In my highschool, the standards aren't really that high, but what kills a lot of students is that we actually had a test in physical education that no one can pass. It's really unfair, especially when you get an A for participation and getting dressed for class. That the only problems I see with ours.. and that we play with all the grades.. So short little 9th grade girls (me) and really really extremely tall seniors in a basketball game... isn't always the best.

oh god peggysturr, please kill yourself, i think your fat
i make mile in 6:30 and i can do at least 40 push ups straight

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damn i wish we had a swimming unit

A= are for the over-achieving students
C= average

i dont see why performance is what counts in every class except PE. therefore, i dont think that effort should be what they grade you on.
besides, if you really put in the effort that "honor students" are expected to give, then, like mipadi said, you would be practicing pushups and running miles on your own time.

your pe standards arent that high anyway.
8 min mile run for boys and 10 min mile runs for girls? that's a joke.
in our school, it's 8min mile runs for girls and 6 for guys.
pushups are 30 minimum for girls.

those who arent as physically fit shouldnt be complaining anyway. because it's the same for stupid people in an academic class.
they're both disadvantaged&maybe they should be pitied. but as far as i know, stupid ppl in regular classes are just plain stupid, slow, and there's no sympathy directed towards them whatsoever.

HE LIEEEEEEEEES! I've seen him run. He's over 7 minutes. Way over. I beat him.



Jeff, stop being mean to people.



P.E. is a ridiculously easy A.

I dont think PE should be a grade at all unless you want to take it. JUST LET US BE FAT!

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i got a B in gym, when i normally get straight A's, because i didnt pay my $2 fee. I was so mad. Like the stupid 2 dollars couldn't have waited to be paid until tomorrow!? My gym teachers a.. bad word.

I hate to say it but if people can't run a mile in 10 minutes they deserve what they get (unless they have asthma or something)

my school grades on effort.. but i still only get a B... ehh who cares?? I'm not athletic.. wow reading your guyses posts makes me really greatful for my PE class

all have to do is 10 pushups and situps (even though i cant do like ANY push ups), run two laps around the soccer field at the beginning of each class, and then we usually do drills for some sport, and at the end of that sport's unit, we play an actual full game of the sport... except then there's fitness testing... which can suck...

but yeah, i can say im NOT jealous of you guys

PE is required for all 4 years here... No one gives a shit about PE though because it only counts for honor roll. It doesn't affect your GPA.... AND they grade partially on effort. Last year I took 9 weeks of swimming... and I am atrocious... yet I got an A. I must say, if only one or two students from your class of 50-something can do 15 pushups and run a mile in less than 8 or 10 minutes... that's pretty pathetic. We kinda get to pick what we do here... so I took 9 weeks of tennis, 9 weeks of volleyball, 9 weeks of weightlifting, and 9 weeks of cardiovascular games. It really ain't bad here... I think from our class of 40 something, roughly 5 kids couldn't meet those standards you mentioned.

i agree... it's my own personal business how physically fit i am!!!

not that my school's PE Class is really tough anyway... i still hate it.

Honestly imo its pretty sad that the majority of the student body in your school could do only 2-3 pushups. My last yr in hs, they started to give PE exams at the end of every semester. The min to pass was 20 pushups,36 situps and 1.5mile run in under 15:00. This was the min for the females, however I followed this min standards too since I was the only male in the class. XD Everyone passed.

I remember awhile the requirements for guys was 20 push ups..and had to run the mile, for boys, in 7:30 minutes. I passed with an A but yeah that was like in elementary school....

I think this would make a good debate topic. Don't worry, feel free to post still, but keep in mind your posts may be countered.

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Fortunately, we only have to take P.E. in grade 9. Then it's optionable for 10, 11 and 12. All schools should do that..

And I do think it's ridiculous that they would have such high standards.. But it's not very hard to achieve it. At the end of grade 9, I did 40 push-ups and 100 sit ups, and we had to run 12 minutes and do about 5 laps of the field. The running part was a bitch..

But that's ok if it's in grade 9, because it doesn't matter for university. Only years 11 and 12 count in Canada.

Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.

^ you're right. The health problems in this country stem from grade school P.E. Whether people want to believe it or not. And frankly, the health condition in this country is deplorable. It all turns into a slippery slope.

People get out of shape >> people need health care >> people can't work >> the country loses money >> the next generation is screwed.

^ Sometimes it's not the person's fault for not being perfectly fit like everyone else. Some people have such busy schedules that they don't really have time to "get in shape".

rawr. lol i still do that. :p however i can pass my PRT fine.

You know, even when kids exercise to pass a class, they'll still go home and scarf down cheeseburgers. And if they don't do it now, they will eventually when they are out of school.

I think that physical education shouldn't be as strict as it is now. I watch my weight, I do sports, etc, but I have asthma and depression which both limit my stamina, so it's hard for me to run two miles in 18 minutes which is the requirement to get an A. I can barely even run one.

^ You don't see any problem with today's condition? Compare it to 50 years ago. I can guarantee you with great certainty that kids 50 years ago could handle twice as much on their PRT than kids nowadays.

Again, it's a slippery slope.

Those requirements seem a tad off? At my school you're expected to get around seven minutes in the mile if you're a guy and about nine if you're a girl. AND 2 OR 3 PUSHUPS? ARE YOU SERIOUS? That's sad. P.E. is definately an easy A.

Agreed.



There's a huge difference between being disgustingly out of shape and being perfectly fit but there's no excuse for people to be as fat as they are when they can control their physique.



Just because you are in good shape doesn't excuse the fact that we are the fattest country on the globe and each generation is fatter than the one before.



Again; indeed.

That's true, but I still don't think their grades should depend on it.

yeah its gym class god

OMG! are you kidding me?! everyone passes gym at my school (unless we dont dress out) it is easy, the reasons the standards are how they are is because we live in an obese nation, when it comes down to it, americans are lazy, and I can easily say the same for myself, get out, be more active, and im sure gym will be easier. =)

also i really think you are making it up, the 2 out of 50, maybe 10 only 20 out of 50 dont get A's, or they arent trying cuz trying you should be able to get atleast 90%.

oh wait i just read the last half of your post. and yes atleast half of it should be effort, but also people should be responsible for their strength, but it should be for body type, such as a small frail girl shouldnt be accounted to be as strong as an athletic girl, ect.

That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. If you can't live up to that simple curriculum, you deserve to fail, honestly.

As far as I know, no one in my class failed gym because of classwork. Some did because they cut a lot, though.

I say gym should be even more strict. I wouldn't like it either, but they should be more strict. Its becoming necessary. They need to be tougher, and get us to work harder. That way, kids won't grow up fat and disgustingly out of shape, and maybe we'd have a shot at a healthy future. I mean, holy crap. I am disgusted.

An 8 minute mile is a reallly slow time. Most guys in my PE class can do it around 6 minutes. I think PE is the easiest class I've had.

PE is does not affect our GPA where i live. It is a good thing it doesn't because I failed PE 9 twice. Here we are required to only take 2 years of PE after that it is a choice.

Seriously? Where I live, at least, I think PE requirements should be MORE strict. Students aren't even required to take it in order to graduate, in fact.

I agree with BrandonSaunders, PE standards aren't strict enough. There are too many health problems involved with lack of exercise (ask me for a source if you want, but I think that's a pretty obvious statement that I don't need to back up), and I think gym class is good for K-12 students.

Just deal with it and do your best, it could be one of the most important classes you have to take. Be glad your school requires that you take it.

So, if it's mandatory, how can they make sure students attend and participate? Give them a grade, just like in every other class. If they don't show up to class 90% of the time, they get an F. If they sit out almost every day because they're pretending to be sick, they fail. There are so many ridiculous things schools aren't allowed to do now because parents are so freaking protective of their children these days, but come on. Our poor little school children aren't gonna die if they're forced to run a couple laps because they were fifteen minutes late to gym class.

Just suck it up, when you're fifteen minutes late to work you get written up, and your mom can't get you a doctor's note to get you out of that.