pandamonium
Apr 27 2005, 10:01 PM
NINTENDO's NEW CONSOLE
well the nintendo company has always been my favorite but now that xbox and playstation have been boosting up gaming sales, well from my opinion i dont know the true statistics, and i saw a rumor on the upcoming console for nintendo. its nuts all these new consoles. well i love nintendo and they have a change to BLOW everyone away because everyone is coming up with new consoles but there is a rumor for the new Nintendo console called "Nintendo Revolution." They have a chance to beat xbox and playstation and i hope they do cause nintendo is an all time favorite.
so has anyone heard anything else on nintendo revolution.???? this is where i found the rumor >>>
clickspeculations is that the Nintendo revolution is going to be unique in a way were the game is viewed in 3d and they had the first hearings of it at a panel. i dont know what they mean 3d but they said the controllers will mostlikely be all wireless and support a pda type touch screen.
this sounds juicy but these are all speculations.
i dont know but there is just so many things they can do now.
edit
here is another good link :
IGN . COM
sadolakced acid
Apr 27 2005, 10:06 PM
hmm. sounds expensive.
there are 3-d LCD screens currently that render 3-d games as two images, and you cross your eyes to see them.
i hope this isn't like that..
pandamonium
Apr 27 2005, 10:13 PM
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 27 2005, 10:06 PM)
hmm. sounds expensive.
there are 3-d LCD screens currently that render 3-d games as two images, and you cross your eyes to see them.
i hope this isn't like that..
i dont think so cause it said that you can hook it up to your computer monitor/tv. i dont know what they meant by 3d but they said they will show the games in a different way that other consoles use.
Justingamemaster
Apr 27 2005, 10:15 PM
Yes. The Nintendo Revolution will in fact have controllers that are touch pads...in fact, the developers of games can modify the way the controller looks, according to the game. They can change the layout, functions, and everything they need in order the make the game more enjoyable.
Also not much has been released from Nintendo concerning the Revolution (i don't think that's even the real title, just a 'codename'), considering the r337 innovations these guys have.
One thing, though, is that Nintendo will not be publishing games upon release of the Revolution unless the developers of those games take full advantage of the controls...sounds pretty whack huh? Nintendo might be making their own games...for a while...which isn't bad, considering the good games they are able to make.
pandamonium
Apr 27 2005, 10:17 PM
yea thats the code name but thats crazy about the changeable controllers and the pda characteristics. it sounds expensive but i hope they make it as cheap for the middle class people. the name they call it is "GCNEXT" meaning the succesor of gamecube.
Justingamemaster
Apr 27 2005, 10:22 PM
I think they will be able to make it cheap. It's Nintendo, the oldest of the three top console battle people. I'm sure they have a few tricks up their sleeves

They will realize that the main reason that Xbox did not successfully launch as well as a PS2 did, despite the awesome technical specs, was because of it's sheer cost. Surely they will not make the same mistake.
Also, something on the side...did you know that Gamecube was a 32-bit console, which is why they didn't have Mario 64? Haha!
kryogenix
Apr 29 2005, 07:38 PM
QUOTE
Yes. The Nintendo Revolution will in fact have controllers that are touch pads...in fact, the developers of games can modify the way the controller looks, according to the game. They can change the layout, functions, and everything they need in order the make the game more enjoyable.
Source? This is just a rumor. Nintendo did admit that the "revolutionary" concept will involve the controller, but this does not confirm a touch pad.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...endo+revolutionPersonally, I have my doubts that 3d the technology in the above topic will be part of the revolution. This might be a bit expensive, which is not nintendo's style. But if they can pull it off, it will be BIG.
Nintendo has a big chance to regain the lead. Playstation's Cell processor will be tough to program for, so 3rd party support may be lacking in the beginning (unless sony releases some good devkits).
QUOTE
Also, something on the side...did you know that Gamecube was a 32-bit console, which is why they didn't have Mario 64? Haha!
No, the gecko processor is 128 bit. Certain operations executed by the processor may be 32 bit (and some are 64 bit), but the Gamecube is indeed a 128 bit console.
ThunderEvermore
Apr 29 2005, 09:28 PM
QUOTE(GamePro @ Issue # 201, June 2005)
The "Revolution"
Name - Unknown. Revolution sounds awfully boastful, but then again, this is Nintendo.
Launch Date - 2006
Backward Compatibility - Confirmed backward compatibility with the GameCube.
Central Processor - By IBM as are those in the Xbox2 and PS3.
Graphics Processor - Courtesy of ATi, who with the Xbox2, is seeing brisk business these days.
Online Play - Nintendo has partnered with GameSpy, but for what? Is the company taking the plunge?
Connectivity - Built in Wi-Fi to connect with other Revolutions and probably the DS.
Cool Rumor - Touch-panel controllers that are completely customizable.
Note - Nintendo has said that it will not compete with the PS3 and Xbox2 in terms of hardware, so you can probably expect midlevel graphic performance and a significantly lower price point.
So thats the skinny on the Revolution.
The Xbox2 is a very intriguing piece of hardware however. It is suppost to contain 256 MB RAM, as much as the 600$ ATi Radeon x850 XT. How would they lower the price point on the entire machine if the graphics processor is going to be a beast like that?
The PS3 prospects to have the same kind of outlandish pricing, with a graphics processor that is "Courtesy of nVidia, and far more powerful than even the current (and obscenely expensive) PC powerhouse GeForce 6800 Ultra."
The next generation of consoles is going to be a big battle, and MS and SONY are bringing the big guns. But much like in, say, Halo 2, sometimes a rocket launcher doesnt do the trick, and a good ol' Sub Maching Gun can wipe out many foes.
All I know is that e3 is going to be some kind of show, and I guarantee that the industry will be changed greatly. I believe its going to be a big turning point in gaming. Will graphics win over gameplay? Will developers lose sight of the true objective, pleasing the player? Will Shigeru Miyamoto wear another Link costume?
All these questions will be answered, and alot more at this year's e3.
pandamonium
Apr 30 2005, 12:12 AM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 29 2005, 7:38 PM)
Source? This is just a rumor. Nintendo did admit that the "revolutionary" concept will involve the controller, but this does not confirm a touch pad.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...endo+revolutionPersonally, I have my doubts that 3d the technology in the above topic will be part of the revolution. This might be a bit expensive, which is not nintendo's style. But if they can pull it off, it will be BIG.
Nintendo has a big chance to regain the lead. Playstation's Cell processor will be tough to program for, so 3rd party support may be lacking in the beginning (unless sony releases some good devkits).
No, the gecko processor is 128 bit. Certain operations executed by the processor may be 32 bit (and some are 64 bit), but the Gamecube is indeed a 128 bit console.
i cant see the video that you showed in that last quote of the link. i wanna see it.
and what are devkits.
and i still dont get this unique 3d quality of the games . i dont get how that works.
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Apr 29 2005, 9:28 PM)
So thats the skinny on the Revolution.
The Xbox2 is a very intriguing piece of hardware however. It is suppost to contain 256 MB RAM, as much as the 600$ ATi Radeon x850 XT. How would they lower the price point on the entire machine if the graphics processor is going to be a beast like that?
The PS3 prospects to have the same kind of outlandish pricing, with a graphics processor that is "Courtesy of nVidia, and far more powerful than even the current (and obscenely expensive) PC powerhouse GeForce 6800 Ultra."
The next generation of consoles is going to be a big battle, and MS and SONY are bringing the big guns. But much like in, say, Halo 2, sometimes a rocket launcher doesnt do the trick, and a good ol' Sub Maching Gun can wipe out many foes.
All I know is that e3 is going to be some kind of show, and I guarantee that the industry will be changed greatly. I believe its going to be a big turning point in gaming. Will graphics win over gameplay? Will developers lose sight of the true objective, pleasing the player? Will Shigeru Miyamoto wear another Link costume?
All these questions will be answered, and alot more at this year's e3.
it sounds like its gunna have a lot of cool things. but wifi with the SP thats awesome but with wifi isnt it slow? like would it be as fast as regular speed as in your computer. i mean i know how psp's can connect through wifi but are they all that fast?
but yea i love nintendo as i said so im definatley buying this. but that makes me worry about buying a xbox 360.
kryogenix
Apr 30 2005, 08:58 AM
mms://wm.networkworld-na-central.speedera.net/wm.networkworld-na-central/events/demo04/TotalImmer_pres.wmv
Removed the http:// tag. devkits are software developer kits.
Eryi
Apr 30 2005, 11:29 AM
I say PS is more of adult games than kid games. Nintendo comes out with more games suitable for kids.
pandamonium
Apr 30 2005, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(JAMx33 @ Apr 30 2005, 11:29 AM)
I say PS is more of adult games than kid games. Nintendo comes out with more games suitable for kids.
ok i dont think that is relevant to what we are talking about.
thx kryo but the link doesnt work cause its mms i dont think windows media player is supporting that.
x LUV x ALWAYS x
May 3 2005, 07:46 PM
that would be pretty cool if they came out with that, it sounds interesting.
jaeman
May 16 2005, 06:29 AM
Yeah, I have heard of the nintendo revoultion.
In fact, sources say that revolution is the code name for the next generation console. From what I know, the intended name is nintendo on. I've seen lots of blueprints and wax models of the console because I live in japan as most of you know.
kryogenix
May 16 2005, 07:02 PM
rumor is (source is a chinese hardware developer) that the revolution is going to have four 2.5 ghz IBM Power PC processors. 10 ghz, that beats Xbox's 9.6 ghz (3 * 3.2).
edit:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articl...4139&page=othernintendo says revolution will be about the size of 3 dvd cases stacked up on top of each other, and only slightly longer.
ThunderEvermore
May 17 2005, 09:10 AM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 16 2005, 8:02 PM)
rumor is (source is a chinese hardware developer) that the revolution is going to have four 2.5 ghz IBM Power PC processors. 10 ghz, that beats Xbox's 9.6 ghz (3 * 3.2).
edit:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articl...4139&page=othernintendo says revolution will be about the size of 3 dvd cases stacked up on top of each other, and only slightly longer.
Wireless out of the box?
Small as 3 DVD cases?
Backwards compatible?
Oh yeah baby, its a revolution. MWAHAHAHAHA. ::cough::
AND more horse power than the xbox? Im wondering how many people will think Nintendo is for t3h kiddies now eh?
kryogenix
May 17 2005, 01:41 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050517/latu045.html?.v=11the revolution will have access to all 20 years of nintendo goodiness! you'll be able to play every nintendo game on the revolution!
[edit]Pics!
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/615/615081p1.html?fromint=1it looks cool! but where's the controller? must be where the revolution is :)
HKT
May 17 2005, 02:13 PM
is that true?what i heard an seen waz that it looks like a ps2.
kryogenix
May 17 2005, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(HKT @ May 17 2005, 2:13 PM)
is that true?what i heard an seen waz that it looks like a ps2.
the pics from the link in my post are the real deal.
it's so good looking! guess what my new background is :)
edit:
BOO YAH, post # 4000.
pandamonium
May 17 2005, 04:00 PM
its so freaking awesome. so far its the smallest console ever and its sleek and sexy. i would hope they come with different colors. i mean ps3 has 3 colors to come with. it would be awesome if this came in green or at least a sleek white.
but the ps3 looks ugly cause it has like the spiderman font on it. and its like one of those weird looking gift boxes. but even tho ps3 is like 35 times more powerful than its ps2 processor i dont think imma buy it.
ThunderEvermore
May 17 2005, 09:39 PM
With the ability to DL all the games from NES SNES etc etc etc, that right there already makes it the best system for sure.
Then theres the small and sexy look, which of course sells consoles, or so says every PSP fan out there.
The PS3 did look dumb, especially with that odd shape, the elliptical kind of shape, I hate it. And the controllers look ridiculously uncomfortable.
kryogenix
May 18 2005, 03:26 PM

The colors dude, the COLORS!
sadolakced acid
May 18 2005, 03:53 PM
nice.
i'd have to go with the black tho...
they need to have glowing LEDs on it. it would probably cost 10 bucks, and it would help sell tons of units...
i want to see the controler tho...
kryogenix
May 18 2005, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 18 2005, 3:53 PM)
i want to see the controler tho...
who doesn't?
rumor is, you'll be able to use gamecube controllers on the revolution.
this could mean that the revolution's controller will be so different, that it would be more difficult to play gamecube games. interesting...
sadolakced acid
May 18 2005, 04:23 PM
mm...
maybe they've forgone the whole controler idea and gone with a gyro-glove control thing...
i'm hoping too much...
that would be quite revolutionary tho...
ThunderEvermore
May 18 2005, 09:17 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 18 2005, 4:26 PM)

The colors dude, the COLORS!
I WANT ONE OF EACH!!
kryogenix
May 26 2005, 03:59 PM
i really really really want to know more about this console. the outside looks great and all, but if I don't know what the controller will look like, or what games will be released (other than every other nintendo console's games), then I'm not quite sold on it yet. Knowing the price would be great too.
edit:
oh man.
QUOTE
"The idea of a single device transporting us back to the first Excitebike, Earthbound, or Punch-Out!! should all make us feel young again, at least for a while. In the end, Nintendo Revolution shares a common vision with one we had for the DS last year. The machine is just a tool. The experience comes from the software."
-Satoru Iwata
If there are plans for a new Earthbound (i know, he's referring to the old earthbound in the post), then I just became more interested.
nightmare4taki
May 26 2005, 05:28 PM
^ Well with all this coming out about the 360 and PS3 not actually running the games on their engines makes me admire Nintendo even more. Their the only one who hasn't showed off their system because their thaking a different approach from Sony and Microsoft.
kryogenix
May 26 2005, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ May 26 2005, 5:28 PM)
^ Well with all this coming out about the 360 and PS3 not actually running the games on their engines makes me admire Nintendo even more. Their the only one who hasn't showed off their system because their thaking a different approach from Sony and Microsoft.
but if only nintendo would only show us more! their marketing director, reggie, is great and all, but we need to see more than just "we're going to kick your ass!" the suspense is killing me.
ThunderEvermore
May 26 2005, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 26 2005, 10:18 PM)
but if only nintendo would only show us more! their marketing director, reggie, is great and all, but we need to see more than just "we're going to kick your ass!" the suspense is killing me.
Reggie said in a GameSpot Live interview that Nintendo was waiting on Micro and Sony to reveal everything they want on their systems, and then Revolution info will come out.
It makes sense, he referenced other companies stealing Nintendo ideas, and its true.
Rumble Pack?
3d graphics? (I know thats dumb, but seriously, Super Mario 64)
Wireless controllers?
All Nintendo.
ANG33ZY
May 26 2005, 11:54 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 18 2005, 1:26 PM)

The colors dude, the COLORS!
OOH THE GREEN ONE PLEASE.
kryogenix
May 27 2005, 06:52 AM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ May 26 2005, 10:26 PM)
Reggie said in a GameSpot Live interview that Nintendo was waiting on Micro and Sony to reveal everything they want on their systems, and then Revolution info will come out.
It makes sense, he referenced other companies stealing Nintendo ideas, and its true.
Rumble Pack?
3d graphics? (I know thats dumb, but seriously, Super Mario 64)
Wireless controllers?
All Nintendo.
don't forget analog sticks!
n64 controller was demonstratated, then Sony steals it for the dualshock controller.
shnuzzles
May 27 2005, 07:45 AM
wow my lil bro was talkin to me about that! its supposed to be uber smaller than the gamecube

uber cool... uber expensive .. gRr have you seen the prices for the xbox 360 games? $60 frickiin dollars daym. lold
ThunderEvermore
May 27 2005, 09:11 AM
QUOTE(shnuzzles @ May 27 2005, 8:45 AM)
wow my lil bro was talkin to me about that! its supposed to be uber smaller than the gamecube

uber cool... uber expensive .. gRr have you seen the prices for the xbox 360 games? $60 frickiin dollars daym. lold

The Rev is fabled to be the sixe of three standard DVD cases stacked together.
Price hasnt yet been determined, but we all know Nintendo has always been about consumer friendly prices, and has already announced that they wont bother competing in graphical capability with the PS3 or 360.
Game prices in general are going up around 5-10 dollars. So ALL new releases will soon be 60$
And Yes Kryo, the analog stick, I didnt think about that.
kryogenix
Jun 7 2005, 05:40 AM
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5136&pg=1this is great news for independent game developers. maybe we'll see something like
this released. (warning: 24mb movie, go here:
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/ for project page.)
Chrono Ressurection was supposed to come out for the gamecube. It was a remake of chrono trigger. The project was going along great, but SquareEnix asked the independent developers to stop.
Some screens:
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/Guardia2.jpghttp://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/Zombor1.jpghttp://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/EndOfTime.jpg
ThunderEvermore
Jun 7 2005, 09:14 AM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 7 2005, 6:40 AM)
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5136&pg=1this is great news for independent game developers. maybe we'll see something like
this released. (warning: 24mb movie, go here:
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/ for project page.)
Chrono Ressurection was supposed to come out for the gamecube. It was a remake of chrono trigger. The project was going along great, but SquareEnix asked the independent developers to stop.
Some screens:
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/Guardia2.jpghttp://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/Zombor1.jpghttp://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/EndOfTime.jpg Oh man I want THAT!!!
EddieV
Jun 7 2005, 09:25 AM
I heard that the Nintendo Revolution project was started shortley after the release of the N64 not the GameCube. Mainly the GameCube and the Nintendo DS were just released so that they would stay in the business, but the Revolution was said to be the most powerful out of all 2 new systems that are coming out. I guess if Nintendo is going to release something big, now's the time, because that company at this point isn't doing too well...
ThunderEvermore
Jun 7 2005, 10:25 AM
QUOTE(xnofearx @ Jun 7 2005, 10:25 AM)
I guess if Nintendo is going to release something big, now's the time, because that company at this point isn't doing too well...
Wha?!
How is Nintendo NOT doing well?
My my my, has Kryo taught us nothing?
Nintendo is the only one who makes a profit on their systems.
BombaTwist
Jun 7 2005, 04:51 PM
they are the ONLY and ONLY ones concentrating on its gaming property for their systems,
the only reason sony is surviving is their home entertainment products like dvd players, cd player, TVs, etc
and microsoft is only because of Bill Gates being freakin hella rich and selling accessories for computers and OS, and maybe the Halo series too =).
But hey, Nintendo is still standing, people think they suck but actually, they sell more unit systems than any other gaming company.
kryogenix
Jun 7 2005, 05:09 PM
QUOTE(xnofearx @ Jun 7 2005, 9:25 AM)
I heard that the Nintendo Revolution project was started shortley after the release of the N64 not the GameCube. Mainly the GameCube and the Nintendo DS were just released so that they would stay in the business, but the Revolution was said to be the most powerful out of all 2 new systems that are coming out. I guess if Nintendo is going to release something big, now's the time, because that company at this point isn't doing too well...
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=34780Read that until you are convinced that nintendo is doing well.
kryogenix
Aug 1 2005, 03:10 PM
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8Supposedly, these are Nintendo Revolution graphics.
I have doubts that these are real. But if they are, then I guess we don't have to worry that the revolution is going to be much weaker than the other two.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8766/re...nfaces015wv.jpghttp://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8231/re...kinetown6hx.jpghttp://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8718/re...street015ht.jpgYeah, I highly doubt these are real, but, spreading rumors is fun.
[edit] took out img tags for the bigger pictures.
beambitious
Aug 1 2005, 03:13 PM
Wow those graphics are amazing! I don't think they are real though for some reason.
kryogenix
Aug 26 2005, 06:46 AM
http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=9080QUOTE
SPOnG can finally confirm the date by which the world will be relieved of the constant burden of wondering about what Nintendo’s Revolution controller actually is.
You’ll be pleased to know that a full explanation of Revolution will be made by Nintendo president Satoru Iwata during his Tokyo Game Show keynote address. This news represents completely finalised Nintendo plans – Iwata will fully outline The Secret on 16th September 2005.
Nintendo is assembling key media to attend this year’s show, due to take place between 16th – 18th September 2005. Iwata will make his presentation of current activities at Nintendo. He will outline current projects and will then - unveil the Revolution in all its glory.
The Revolution presentation will include an explicit outline of the hardware and its controller and input mechanic, as well as illustrate exactly how it will work. It will go on to show games running on the system and how they make use of the technology.
Mario 128, or ‘New Mario’ as it is dubbed internally at Nintendo, is expected to be the star of the show.
SPOnG has a record of perfectly outlining what Iwata’s keynote addresses will entail. And we can tell you with 100% certainty that in the next three and a bit weeks, we’ll all be looking at Nintendo Revolution controller hardware and accompanying games. Exciting times indeed.
We’ll bring you updates as they break, as well as Tokyo Game Show coverage direct from the show floor. Let us know what you think, and drop any questions for SPOnG’s editorial staff in the forum below.
ThunderEvermore
Aug 26 2005, 12:19 PM
Finally! Nintendo gives us what PS3 and X-360 fans have been getting for the past few months!
Here comes a Revolution.
ThunderEvermore
Aug 30 2005, 10:07 AM
pandamonium
Aug 30 2005, 02:09 PM
lol i have been reading the past posted and we sound like little children at a toy store. lol
but it is true. i am drooling to find out what the pieces of the puzzle make out for the controller of the ninendo revolution. i really cant wait so see what nintendo has in store.
they are so totally going to wow us. there are so many people i have talked to and they said they werent going to get the revolution and they also talk bad about it. and im like you dont even know nothing about it.
lol i cant wait for mario party to come out for it.
artislife90
Aug 31 2005, 12:23 AM
I am a huge fan of nintendo's games. who ever says their just for kids is way to into seeing an M rating on a game case.
Anywho I can't wait for the Revolution. Its such a sexy little system, it may even be the only "Next Gen" one I am really excited about. But yea, Nintendo is really the only one who does thing right, they don't care about having the fasted and most powerful piece of silver plastic.
So yea, can't wait to see the controller because there have been so many rumors about touch pads and replaceable pieces and gloves and all other sorts of craziness.
Whee, this shall quite interesting.
^ That was a very badly though out and written post.. but its late so yea. SHH!!
pandamonium
Aug 31 2005, 02:18 AM
QUOTE(artislife90 @ Aug 31 2005, 12:23 AM)
I am a huge fan of nintendo's games. who ever says their just for kids is way to into seeing an M rating on a game case.
Anywho I can't wait for the Revolution. Its such a sexy little system, it may even be the only "Next Gen" one I am really excited about. But yea, Nintendo is really the only one who does thing right, they don't care about having the fasted and most powerful piece of silver plastic.
So yea, can't wait to see the controller because there have been so many rumors about touch pads and replaceable pieces and gloves and all other sorts of craziness.
Whee, this shall quite interesting.
^ That was a very badly though out and written post.. but its late so yea. SHH!!
lol yea thats what i do lol i dont even have a point to my posts especially when i am posting at like 3 in the morning.
yea you are right they really dont want to build consoles they want to bring in computers to the mix. nintendo is thne only one that cares about their consoles.
i just hope the price of the games are that much
i hope they are still like 50 bucks. is that even possible?
ThunderEvermore
Aug 31 2005, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Aug 31 2005, 3:18 AM)
lol yea thats what i do lol i dont even have a point to my posts especially when i am posting at like 3 in the morning.
yea you are right they really dont want to build consoles they want to bring in computers to the mix. nintendo is thne only one that cares about their consoles.
i just hope the price of the games are that much
i hope they are still like 50 bucks. is that even possible?
All games are gonna rise to 60$ or more, more than likely. Except for those scant few which get scrapped and some other company takes them on (COUGH Phantom Dust COUGH).
iNyCxShoRT
Aug 31 2005, 04:15 PM
=O the silver one looks so hot. I want one. Is it similar to the 64 though?
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